Reply #9: I am sure that most here would agree with your ideology but then comes [View All]

Pragmatism. That is the excuse used. America is a right leaning country and the only way to get enough support to win a national election is by being Pragmatic. If supporting Gays is a loser than the Pragmatic thing is to drop that support. That is what the DLC represents to me. Pragmatism and it does have some logic to it. IMO though it is time to fore go that and lay our beliefs squarely on the line. We do believe in Government. We believe in Law and Order and we believe in taking care of our fellow citizens. We believe in Equality for all. It is time to start not only talking about those things but to actually start bragging about them. Virtually every worthwhile thing America has done was pushed by Liberals. We need to be proud of that and not ashamed. Pragmatism is a horrible concept....It means you don't stand on principle but results.