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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 07:02 AM
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38. Who ever promised you a rose garden?
First, the loud minority saw a change in their world view on November 7. Now, we must adjust our own to fit the new reality which exists NOW! It may not last, but it's here for our use now.

If Bush's compliant followers scream "tit-for-tat" and "revenge," what do we do? Do we just go away with our tails between our legs, or do we use our heads for something other than a wind tunnel? If they say that, is it true? Is it true?

1) A high crime has been committed, and is highly visible (remember those polls showing 51% of Americans want impeachment -- and they were taken some time ago?) Many more than one crime have been committed. Don't think so? Read John Conyers' report.

2) We don't have to quiver in light of possible Republican outrage. Remember, we won the House and Senate on November 7. Even if we lost the Senate through Lieberman's being promoted upward, we still have the House. We need to be concerned with letting a significant number of *Democratic* Congress members know that we'll express outrage and act on that outrage if they let us down.

No, there is no guarantee of conviction in the Senate. We didn't know if we would win the Second World War when my father enlisted. He and the other members of the Greatest Generation didn't have the luxury of dithering online about how it would look.

3) Given the amount of material already compiled by John Conyers, it would seem that impeachment could go forward quickly, if there is the will to do so. Too many people keep harking back to the Clinton impeachment, which was visibly *unfair*. Just because that was a show trial does not mean that impeaching for numerous crimes against humanity and against our Constitution will be seen in that light. What we need is to go forward with integrity and belief in the truth of the matter, not act like teenagers in a beauty contest, worrying about what somebody(ies) who have not attained real adulthood are going to say about us.

There are already some bottom feeders that are in jail, or who are sweating blood that they may be. If they have squealed, we don't know it yet. Maybe they have. But people are dying while we debate all these clever strategies.

We need to begin impeachment proceedings immediately, when the new Congress is seated, for one reason (although many others could be brought to the table): It is the moral, the legal, the Constitutional thing to do.

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