Reply #31: I actually agree with much of what you said in the third paragraph. [View All]

Please believe me, I'm NOT saying we should KOWTOW to anybody. I'm just arguing that what that campaign stood for, whatever you think of the guy(and at this stage, believe me, I don't think much of him anymore) you can see that what his campaign's principles were should be OUR principles. They WERE our principles once. We gained nothing by abandoning them.

As to centrists, well they have a right to a voice somewhere, but they don't have the right to demand that the Democrats ignore the progressive majority and water our platform down to nothing, like Clinton and the 2000 version of Gore did. There was never any excuse for "centrists" (read conservatives, you're a conservative if you supported NAFTA and opposed single-payer health care, and you know it) to be given absolute power in this party like they had in the last Democratic administration, an administration where CEO's and defense contractors mattered and unions and the poor didn't.