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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 08:10 PM
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119. I see a lot of vague "I don't like that SORT of woman"
rather than specific behaviors identified. This is why your posts are coming off as sounding misogynistic. Another person wrote that if you spoke of Obama that way, we would all see how offensive that is, and I believe that poster was correct. "His traits mesh with that of other black people (in the military, or not) that I've seen" is bigoted, no?

I haven't seen a stunning difference between how she treats her campaign workers and how other candidates treat theirs. I will say that I know John Conyers dogs his staff here in Detroit like crazy, and can be very abrupt to them. They put up with it because he does awesome things; it's an honor to work for him, but my daughter has been in his office and seen him speak to them in ways that shocked her. Not cursing or anything, but with an attitude she found extremely off-putting. What "sort" of people would you identify that behavior with? Military wives?

I think you have some very strong double standards, where you are especially hostile to a woman that uses connections to get where she is, while being blind to the notion that that's how MOST people make or break their fortunes - by using the connections they have, whether they are in the family or not. And I think you are using double standards that come from gender-roles imposed upon us, when determining how much "the ability to show empathy" matters. Again, Conyers is one of my favorites, he's local so I see him fairly often, and I will tell you "an ability to show empathy" isn't something he's known for. He's known for intelligence and grit. And I've never heard one person complain about that. He's there to do a job, and he does it well, and that's more important than whether he gives you a warm fuzzy feeling.

I never liked team sports or Girl Scouts, so I can't talk much about whatever it is you're alluding to that makes you think those groups are superior to the rest of us in some way.

That said, I'm not planning to vote for her because of her stance on the war.
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