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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 08:18 PM
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59. Maybe instead of calling me racist, you might consider how i meant the term "tribal" (lol)
NYC is an extremely HUGE, diverse and complicated city.

1/3 is first generation immigrant. 1/3 or so is from outside NYC.

There are 5 boroughs and hundreds of languages spoken.

Politics in NYC do not break down into any simple categories. Ethnicity, Borough, class, party, language, ideology, religion, gender, etc. These and other factors all come into play.

Indeed... most people here in NYC will not vote based on race.

By "tribal," i mean there are ways in which all those factors overlap with very LOCAL politics in NYC. You can find EXTREMELY strange bedfellows in NYC. You might find Jew and Black local politicians suddenly coordinating against Latino democrat to support a republican. It's all about favors, local politics and very TRIBAL dynamics.

Churches in Harlem are a perfect example.

There are different networks and politically they often conflict head-to-head. Rev Butts is a major player, in that sense, and he's tied into a wider black-latino caucus. I believe Rangel is a direct Butt's guy, and Hillary has tied into this network very directly.

It's a huge hit for Obama for Butt's to endorse Hillary, but IT IS HER TURF after all. =)

The thing is tho... the political leaders don't necessarily represent the feeling on the street, which was my point. And if the people are sick of Hillary suddenly, having their local leaders support her will only cause more tension and disillusionment.

In the end... my concern is how this impacts voter turn-out.

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