Reply #85: Swing voters do not make ridiculous and unrealistic demands [View All]

Threaten emotional extortion and blackmail, or otherwise throw tantrums and make condescending demands that they be allowed to shove a one-sided agenda up my ass for which they do not have the leverage in numbers to demand.

In addition, swing voters range around 10% of the voters - the fringe left range around 1-2%. Swing voters along with the mainstream moderates and centrists of the Democratic Party have more leverage and thus have more say in the Party Platform and agenda.

And yes, the one-sided, condescending "offer" that began this thread rubs me the wrong way, for sure. It is basically a laundry list of all the things YOU will do for ME, and I will do nothing in return. It is also based on the MISTAKEN presumption that the mainstream NEEDS the radical left MORE than it needs the GREATER numbers of votes and approval of the rank and file of the majority of the Democratic voters. Indeed.

That is not a deal at all. That is political and Party suicide. A CERTAIN way to LOSE this election. The left fringe overestimate their value. It is not that they are not welcome in the Democratic Party. No. It is that they make impossible and unrealistic demands and are impossible to please. They need us, not the other way around, because the truth is they will get "some" of what they want if they go with the Democratic Party, but NOTHING if they go 3rd Party, and they do know this.

Just look at how this poster described the progressive vision - as a "drastically different world"? Now just how in God's name is an agenda like that going to sell to a majority of the Democratic Party? People are just not going to buy DRASTIC changes over night! Any change has to take place slowly, and making this or any election about drastically restructuring the Party or the World is going to fail, and for the life of me I just don't understand why progressives don't see that and insist on making that a litmus test.

So, yes, I think trying to work with that kind of a purist and altruistic attitude is a losing proposition and a complete waste of time. I do think a lot can be accomplished with a Democratic Presidency, and would rather concentrate my efforts where they can actually make a difference. Discussing absurd and suicidal propositions with someone who has no intention of coming to a reasonable agreement is not one of them.