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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 10:17 AM
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78. I can answer that ...
Edited on Sun May-11-08 10:30 AM by mntleo2
...when it is not supporting feminism to vote for Hillary Clinton is when you have watched how she voted and the stances she has taken that are against the better interests of women.

A. She thinks parenting is not contributing to Community, when raising the next generations to take care of US and run our country, is about the most patriotic thing a person can do. Parenting as mostly a woman's job. See Welfare Reform and her stance on it, she is 100% fot it. This has been codified into law where there are more women in poverty in this country than men and furthermore she thinks poor women and their children should be plunged into lifelong poverty working McJobs, and FURTHERMORE, she says that it is just fine to rip three month old babies from their mother's breast to force mothers into those McJobs. How "feminist" is that?

B. See here: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/362579_momsalary10.html. MomsRising is working hard to get paid family leave, which would impact WOMEN mostly as they not only raise the children, but also take care of their elders and spouses. Thanks to that work, they also "lose" around 1/2 million dollars in lifetime wages. As I told Joan Blades, the founder of this organization (and of MoveOn): "If we do not see women's work as being legitimate work worthy of the respect it deserves, how can you expect corporations or our government to want to compensate for that work?" Yet Clinton has actively demonized this work with her stances against it. How "feminist" is it to not honor this traditionally feminine work as a worthwhile contribution to our society by supporting it financially as well as with our collective approval?

C. Women's work has been marginalized since the beginning of time because it is unpaid work ~ but it is intellectually challenging, diplomatic, hard work nevertheless. Women in most cultures are the weavers of Community, the healers, the caretakers. Yet the modern feminist movement has done nothing but ridicule this work. They actually think working a McJob is "better" than raising a child or taking care of an elder or giving to your community and neighborhoods. They actually think that spending your life saying, "Would you like fries with that?" is "more important" than a child or elder. That traditional women's work has kept civilizations, religious institutions and neighborhoods intact because of the efforts of women. Venezuela at this time PAYS stay-at-home moms a wage to raise their next generation because they value that work. Cuba will actually grant a divorce to a woman if the man does not help her with that work. Clinton, with her nanny help, her cooks, her maids thinks women should do both and not get any compensation for the other full time job women do, she says it is "doing nothing." How feminist is that?

Hillary Clinton thinks working for corporations and making a paycheck is somehow "better" when corporations are doing nothing for their communities like women do. While I would agree women are forced more and more into the workplace to provide for their families, I would also say this is because WOMEN'S WORK IS NOT RESPECTED OR SUPPORTED thanks to the likes of Hillary Clinton and her ilk. Women would be given a better choice to do both if the work she does at home and in her community was valued, which according to Clinton, it should not be. How feminist is that?

I could go on but ...

Cat In Seattle
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