You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Reply #137: I'm not sure all of her criticisms are justified. [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU
ewulf Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:04 PM
Response to Original message
137. I'm not sure all of her criticisms are justified.
Certainly, Madsen is a very, very poor writer but, perhaps, a decent investigator. He finds a lot of very interesting pieces of evidence, and a lot of garbage, and mixes them together with a lot of speculation. In the end, we have some very well researched historical fiction, not journalism. Perhaps if Madsen had a good editor, things would be different.

Still, there is a lot that should not be discounted about Clinton Curtis' sworn affidavit, regardless of the writing style of the guy who first brought it to our attention, and Bev doesn't do a very good job of tearing it down.

Clint never claims that his software was every used in an actual election, indeed, he implies that it could not have been used; it was just a proof of concept demonstration of a system of vote rigging that is somewhat more advanced and undetectable (from a results analysis standpoint) than simple candidate switching. When he was asked to work on a real vote switching program, he backed out.

When Feeney first began working with Clint, he was not the Speaker of the Florida House, but rather just the corporate council and lobbyist for YEI, according to the affidavit; this is fairly plausible. The Qui Tam (or QUITAM) issue may only speak to the fact that Clint is not very legally knowledgeable or well advised, by admitting to the filing, he might have been breaking the law rather than lying, or he might just be confused about the whole thing.

There is a lot of stuff in Clint's affidavit, a lot of names, events, et cetera, that do seem to cross check with reality and this at least gives his statements a veneer of plausibility.

It seems that Bev was a little quick to judge and, from her criticisms, it is not entirely clear that she read the affidavit that closely.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC