Reply #6: The recount won't undo the cross-voting, Kerry votes counted for Bush .. [View All]

Non-votes, Badnarik votes, and Peroutka votes are indicators of cross-precinct voting. The represent a proportion of the Kerry and Bush votes that were switched.

This issue goes to the validity of the election. Recount 1,000 times and you won't fix cross-voting. The voter punched the wrong chad out.

The real questions posed by this thread are:

"How many votes were switched from Kerry to Bush, or from Bush to Kerry?"

"In what proportions did this happen, and in what proportion where?"

"What caused it to happen where it happened?"

"Is the pattern of the degree to which it occurred random of the result of premeditated actions by partsans?"

There are more questions, but this is a good start.

For example, "Why does the Kerry vote decline when there are more ballot orders at a location?" This was the question originally posed by Iceburg in his "Chaos in Cuyahoga" thread. He pointed out this correlation, and I got interested in finding the answer:



And RH Phillips points out, "In Cleveland there are 12 precincts with more than 6% of the ballots uncounted. These account for 380 uncounted votes, 8.07% of the city wide total, and 9.19% of the total ballots cast in these 12 precincts. John Kerry won them all overwhelmingly, by a margin of 12 to 1 in the aggregate."

In precincts with 95% Kerry support, if cross-voting happens in equal partisan proportions, for those voting on ballots with Kerry and Bush in the same ballot position, for every 1 Bush voter whose vote gets counted for Kerry, 19 Kerry votes get counted as Bush votes! Once I realized this, I really got interested!!

So the big, overarching question is, "Can we figure out the true ratio of the candidate's gains and losses, and what would the outcome have been in a clean election without these irregularities and/or frauds?"