Reply #101: Can I ask who "We" are? Do I need to worry about hearing Jackboots? [View All]

Regardless, I apologize for any direct insult to Walt, as the comments were made in the hasted anger he created with his post. But my words were meant to be directed at this philosophy he preaches; this pessimism towards the liberals in this forum, and generally the emerging Democratic attitude towards Liberals in general.

Please, can one of you centrists answer this: Where do you think the Democratic Party will get its base if we are to abandon the Left wing of our party, and move more towards the "middle"? Whats the middle ground we are moving towards on abortion? My understanding of the Dem view now is that we want them rare, safe, and legal. The repubs want them totally banned. We COMPROMISED and said fine, we will agree to ban some rare abortion cases. What did we get in the bargain from the people we BENT OUR WILL to? Demands of MORE MORE MORE! They are children, how do you reason with children, guys?

Do you think that if we tell the people that want TOTAL reproductive freedom and no less, that their view, which this party has staunchly fought for, is now invalid? That the heat is too much now, and we've got to pack it in? When in fact the heat just got a megaphone, but didn't get any bigger at all.

Whats the middle ground on Gay marriage? Either their idea of a relationship is valid or it isn't. Plain and simple. I think only the lowest form of conservative would say that homosexual relationships are invalid. Certainly no Dems should think it, because that would be invalidating all the work Liberal wing of this party strove for in civil rights for all Americans (and this political machine rode the back of to power for awhile, I might add). So what is the argument about? Are we to treat them as less in the eyes of the law because some people don't like the fact that they don't to put their TAB A into someone's SLOT B, like "GODtm" intended.

If you keep abandoning your base, how the hell do you think you will win? Do you think the Repub moderates are going to defect, to even out the teams? WTF? You can't recruit from the other army while you are at war and expect to win.