Reply #25: Yes, we'll see. [View All]

I've been disappointed in Dean as well when it comes to this issue.

There's a huge push to keep the public confused on the already confusing issue. Many Dems claim to be terrified that the issue will keep voters from the polls, maybe Dean bought into that.

Who really knows what the hell is going on? Personally, I think anyone who would say we can't talk about fixing a corrupt system--a system which is completely unverifiable, and non-transparent-- because of somewhat defeatist and patronizing concerns about getting voters to the polls, are themselves contributing to a mindset of corruption. Their views on Democracy itself are corrupted.

Instead of running around DU full-time mocking and finger-wagging DUers for their concerns on this matter, it would be nice to see the re-energized (since the JFK Jr. article) team of Fraud/theft challengers stick to the issue of getting verified and transparent elections, if that is indeed what they believe, and if that is indeed why they are here. You don't have to believe in a stolen election to work for a clearer voting system of paper ballots and hand counts.

Some who want yet more, or as some might say "real" proof of theft (from machines that contain proprietary information, legally closed off from scrutiny! :crazy: ) are even less able to prove the viability and trustworthiness of machine voting. and I'm not seeing so much proof presented that it's actually a safe system, or even concerns about the system, as I'm seeing attempts to crush the subject altogether and demoralize individuals who are concerned about fraud, while at the same time congratulating and applauding others who are also partaking in the mockery and condescension.

Again, the previous run-on sentence is in regard to the newly-and-once-again re-energized bank of folks who would prefer to crush discussion of an important and complex matter by intimidation and insult rather than work together in areas of agreement.

If only our elections were as transparent as some of the "arguments" floating here and there around DU these days, that would be swell.