Reply #21: " Martians?" Who is "accusing every official of complicity?" [View All]

"behavior that brings our entire movement in to disrepute"(?)The number of election reform advocates, including those who suspect the election was stolen, grow by the day. The Election reform daily thread reveals some of that. See autorank's post downthread for more on how our movement is spreading.

What exactly do you think is "our movement"? There has been a movement in this very forum that has grown without your presence, and suddenly it's "our movement", sans some of the members who built it, by your accounting.

The greatest volume of your posts are negative, not positive.

And what do you yourself fear that has you so impassioned in thread after thread? What is your proof that that fear is soundly based? I will say that the fear that election reform is being harmed by opinions (that are based on evidence that some accept, and others as yet do not, nor may they ever.) is not a provable premise at your end of the argument. Rep. Jan Schakowsky of Illinois is one who has finally come to the conclusion that the election was definitely stolen based on her examination of the evidence as it now stands. She even felt the need to apologize for not taking the matter as seriously as she felt she might have. The fact is that you yourself do not accept the evidence, and do not want anyone else to accept it either. there are threads here readily available for examination regarding the evidence. The JFK Jr. article contains the evidence. Mark crispin Miller has put together evidence. John Conyers has info. BradBlog. There are others. You simply do not accept it. And that's fine.

Are you afraid that voters won't show up if they believe their votes won't be counted? Can you Prove it? Or better yet, tell the electorate that we work for reliable elections instead of pretending there are no problems. And get out the vote.

What exactly do you want, not as it relates to how you're treated, or how you believe the message should be delivered, but what do you want to see happen in our government, and how do YOU hope to achieve it? what is your goal in "our movement", Specific and exact? Please answer that question first, and then go on to say whatever else you feel needs to be said.

I will be posting links to some of your comments later, as you requested.