Reply #59: Yes, let's "discuss and debate topics like this". [View All]

That's exactly what I'm doing. I add my own little sarcastic barbs in what I say -- just as you quite freely do -- but I am discussing and debating.

You don't think questioning the validity of OOBEs is a valid debate approach? You don't think questioning the useful fruits of OOBEs, or rather the enormous lack thereof, is a valid debate approach?

What does science not being able to do anything and everything imaginable you might ask of it have to do with whether or not OOBEs do anything useful or anything verifiable at all?

Am I supposed to give the whole OOBE thing some sort of "well, it's still under development" pass -- is that what you're going for? Am I supposed to be patient with OOBEs and the huge lack of useful and verifiable results because it's like a product that's still in the lab, not quite ready for use? Is it because, oh, say humanity as a whole is "still struggling to enter a New Age of Enlightenment", and until we do, the whole OOBE phenomena can't be expected to get beyond a few select Enlightened Ones (who are, like, so "open-minded" and wise and kewl) oohing and ahhing about how amazing it is to visit grandma's house and see what kind of flowers she's planting in her garden this year?