Reply #103: Sorry Selwynn [View All]

but you have consistently played the martyr about religious persecution, and I just think it's funny.

I completely understand why you would not like for people to criticize your religion. I really do. But I think you should surface for air, look around, and realize that the religious control everything in our culture, and you are in no danger.

As to the "big tent" argument, it fails on me. I'm not suggesting, nor has anyone here ever suggested, that christians be removed from the party. I think you go out of your way to find any intimation of that. I do think you should recognize the fact that atheists and gays and women and non-christians and others have good reason to be suspicious of christians and their motives. Unfortunately, liberal christianity is NOT the predominant form of christianity on display in this country.

I don't know what denomination you belong to, but I like to use the example of catholics (which I used to be). Even if one is a liberal catholic and disagrees with the church on certain issues, one is STILL supporting the corrupt and decadent power structure of the church by remaining a member of it. If you put a dollar in the collection plate, you're supporting it. If you stay on their rolls, you're supporting it.

I feel the same way about good liberals who let their children be boy scouts. yes, the boy scouts do good things, as does the church. But by letting your children be a member, and supporting it, you are in fact helping maintain their bigotry against gays and atheists.