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Lipton64 Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 10:18 PM
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63. He's very right
I couldn't agree more. My uncle was one of the doctors who treated the victims after the war and without going into so many details - it made him a life-long agnostic.

Not to mention nobody ever discusses the "Axis" victims - the civilians(and even many ordinary soldiers) who were caught up in the mass bombing. People should read up on this and also on The Napalming of Dresden and the massive bombing of Tokyo that intentionally targeted civilians. Such "Allied" war crimes are never discussed in the open sadly. German, Italian, Japanese, and other ethnicities who were complicit with the "Axis" powers also frequently faced DIRECT targeted of civilian populations by Allied air missions. Such attrocities need to be brought to the forefront. I think in the upcoming future over the next few decades the glittering facade of American and Anglo nobility in the war will fade as newer, younger historians look at the conflict in a more impersonal and more objective light.

As Noam Chomsky notes, all post-WW2 American presidents should have been hanged if the Nuremberg criteria were properly applied to them - Democrats notwithstanding.

One should visit Dresden, Germany now and look at all the old castles and such that were brought to the ground by "Allied" bombing.

Keep in mind FDR provoked Japan into attacking us with his embargos, quite-open-and-known anti-Japanese diplomatic manuveuring, his build-up in the Pacific, and his hypocritical policies regarding Japan's "right to empire" when the U.S. and Britain both had imperialist designs and troops occupying not only the region but China as well at the time. The U.S. and Britain even had gunboats that patrolled Chinese river waters to enforce "American and British interests" on sovereign Chinese territory. They even interfered frequently in the war waging between Japan and China such as the USS Panay "incident" in the 30s:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panay_incident

American and British gunboats shouldn't have even been on Chinese waters in the first place.

Personally I can't stand FDR because the man was a racist and pro-totalitarian when it came to non-fascist thug regimes.

And I don't really understand what was so noble about defeating fascism and destroying Nazi Germany and Imperialist Japan while at the same time fighting the war to preserve the murderous-communist dictatorship of the Soviet Union and the repressive and very-racist British Empire that jailed and killed political dissidents.

Not to mention we had our own little Imperialist racket going on in Cuba, Iceland, and the Phillippines, among other places.

It was like choosing which bucket of acid to dump on one's head instead of not doing dumping any on at all. The United States - by interfering in world affairs - created even bigger problems for the world by making its empire and the dictatorships and empires of our "friends"(if you want to call the communists and the imperialists that) non-accountable to our own cherised principles of freedom, equality, and tolerance.

I think over time we'll be treated as we properly should be as not-so-morally-superior to many of the enemies who really commited "crimes" that we ourselves at the same time justified for ourselves and for our elite group of friends tragically.
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