Reply #115: Every part of your post is wrong. [View All]

"Of course, you are adding energy to the system."

You mean during ozone generation? Yeah that's why ozone is bad for you.

"O3 can turn into O4, O5, even all the way up to O18 as far as I know."

You're thinking of ¹⁸O, the oxygen isotope, not O₁₈ the allotrope. O₄ and O₅, but they're just freak experimental allotropes and have no real world function.

"Being that O2 is the most stable form of atmospheric oxygen, and that O3 breaks down readily, it is truly an enigma why your pharmaceutical company would add more energy to a process that needs none to do it naturally."

The pharmaceutical industry has no interest in using energy to convert ozone to diatomic oxygen.

"What concerns me more, is Nitrogen Narcosis, or Martini's law, where Nitrogen becomes toxic at 100 feet, which happens to be 3 atmospheres, oxygen toxicity doesn't really start until 4 atmospheres, or 120 feet."

Oxygen, being only ~20% of the gas in a scuba tank, has a lower partial pressure than nitrogen. And equal partial pressure oxygen is more toxic. But this has nothing to do with ozone.

"The EPA is bought and paid for by the big Corporations. They pass regulations that no other country in the world has in order to conceal simple, effective, products from being discovered by the uneducated public, thus satisfyine big Corporate interests."

Conspiracy theory.

"Again, you have bought into the "Antioxidant" myth."

What antioxidant myth?

That oxidation is bad for cells? That's well proven.

"Again, you have bought into the "Antioxidant" myth. When your cells engulf a piece of dust in your lung, what happens to them? Does the crap just sit there and encyst into an inert mass? Does your lung magically incorporate the foreign matter into your body? Well guess what, those cells use the extra atom of Oxygen and synthesize minute quantities of H2O2, thats right Hydrogen peroxide, in order to Oxidize the contaminant, virus, bacteria, etc. The cells need to be removed after they die, and are absorbed back into the body to be disposed of."

Pieces of dust cause inflammation. Inflammation causes oxidative stress. Oxidative stress is characterized by production of toxic molecules live hydrogen peroxide, which destroy tissue. The body fights oxidative stress with things like peroxidases, which rapidly destroy hydrogen peroxide, and other antioxidants like ascorbate.

"There is a world other than America that has used, and continues to use Ozone in medicine and other useful function in place of pharmaceuticals and chemicals. This is a fact."

There's a world where people use collodial silver and crystals. They're quacks too. That's a fact.

"Ozone can cause distress to those with compromised pulmonary function. That is a fact."

Ozone can cause compromised pulmonary function in healthy individuals. That's a fact.

"Tesla liked Ozone."

Tesla was a eugenicist who thought Albert Einstein was wrong and that the theory of relativity, which he didn't believe, was really invented by a fellow Yugoslav in the 1700s. And he tried to invent and sell a "death ray" that never worked.

Despite the few inventions of his which did work, the guy was a fucking nut.


"I'm truly surprised that you so ardently attack Oxygen, the one element that we absolutely require to function on earth. It truly boggles the mind."

There's an important difference between oxygen and ozone.

"Have you ever asked yourself why you are an Asthmatic?"

There's a good chance that ozone is involved. That's why asthma is so common in cities with lots of smog.

"Ozone can be a medicine, or it can be a room deodorizer/sanitizer. "

Ozone is neither a medicine nor a room deodorizer. It can be used to sanitize in high concentrations. Those little deodorizing machines they sell on late night TV don't produce a high enough concentration to do anything.

"As for me, it gives me extra energy, I feel great, and have lung function like a teenager. I researched O3 quite thoroughly before I dove in. Now, I wish I had known about it 20 years ago."

You have the scientific literacy of a preteen.

"Furthermore, I believe that Ozone allows us to recoup some of the extra energy released when the O3 molecule breaks apart and during the oxidation process. It's my belief, it works for me, and I think other people should know about alternatives that are cheap, effective, non-polluting and easier on the environment such as Ozone."

There's a lot of energy released when you pour gasoline on yourself and set yourself on fire. In fact, it's even a form of oxidation. That doesn't mean it's good for you.

"And by the way, I think your term Ozone is Toxic to Aerobic and Anaerobic... is semantically incorrect. It is not necessarily toxic per se, but actually oxidizes the organism at the molecular level, transforming it into another form. I think Destructive to Aerobic and Anaerobic is more appropriate, but what do I know."

All toxins work on a molecular level by definition.