Reply #84: Let's be clear... YOU are suggesting the "spitting on Obama's mother's grave" .... [View All]

not me --

Nor am I saying that "everything Obama says is a lie" --

And your comments give evidence to the fact that you're getting testy re this challenge

to you on this issue -- and you've run out of debating skills.



All wars happen for a variety of reasons.

So yes, I think that a reasonable person can choose to focus on one of the reasons this war was started and/or change the focus of what we're doing here no out.

There is no war without CIA involvement and there is no capitalism/corporatism without CIA

involvement -- no torture without CIA involvement. On and on.

They should be shut down.

Yes -- wars happen for a variety of reasons -- usually the same reasons over and again which

can be wrapped in a bundle of IMPERIALISM and EXPLOITATION of nature -- and other people.

We're still in the same gene pool which gave us genocide vs the native American --

and enslavement of African here.

And 100 more years of Segregation, Inc. --

And US is still using patriarchal religion as a tool of war --

See my post - link below -- for details on that re our creating Taliban/Al Qaeda and

our creating a violent element of Islamic religion --


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=469110&mesg_id=469508