Reply #16: This is important, and many thanks to you Paul, and to Kucinich, Waters, and others. [View All]

Apparently activists are now split down the middle, with two percent more being against HR811. This according to a recent posting in the ER forum.

Since anti-HR811 people are being accused of being "Bevbots" and paid agents for the E-voting machine companies with regularity in the Election reform forum, I think I'll take this opportunity to postulate my own opposing theory.

Please bear with my somewhat paranoid, or seemingly paranoid speculation about how it would actually be some--SOME--of the HR811 supporters who are actually doing work that the Machine companies desire:

So Bev Harris comes our early-on as a champion against the easily hackable voting machines. She demonstrates the simplicity with which elections can be stolen. She uses Howard Dean to make the presentation with her.

She gains attention and enthusiastic support from DU, Randi Rhodes, and Keith Olbermann to name a few.

She then proceeds to destroy her personal, and that's PERSONAL, credibility through rudeness, non-cooperation and an ugly campaign against respected activist Andy Stephenson, who is dying. She is secretive about funding (and I now begin to believe that she is very well funded indeed) and behaves in a way that arouses suspicion.

In the mean time we have sincere activists and citizens who find Bev so repellent that any information she presents is dismissed due to her appalling PERSONAL behavior.

The e-machine companies then have Bev present the most reasonable information for actually gaining reform that will keep the machine counts most accurate, and allow for the most transparency in the voting process. It is in reality all the information that the companies actually DO NOT wish to see enacted, but it is information they hope to discredit.

There are then "activists" and experts in a number of fields--psychology being one, verified by a poster from England--put in place whose purpose is to vehemently accuse people of being "bevbots" just because the information being supported also happens to be supported by Bev. It doesn't matter if the information is actually positive for real reform.

If Bev said it, all are "forced" to abandon it as worthless through orchestrated brow-beating and repeated postings of how Bev is PERSONALLY a wretched person not to be trusted.

This kind of operation would be nothing new in the world of politics. As you have pointed out in the past, Paul, there are enormous stakes that are to be gained in stealing elections. Most specifically the presidency.

So I suppose Dennis Kucinich and Maxine Waters are "Bevbots" as well, according to the crew who NEVER fail to make such accusations. They are both their own people, and always have been for many years now. I say sorry to the experts, but this much we know for sure about Kucinich and Waters.

Call your reps folks, and request that they support Dennis Kucinich in the matter of voting.