Reply #15: Bullshit!!! [View All]

A certain public figure is using her notoriety to attack her allies in ending the war. Just what we need, more public attacks on Democrats. "Democrats suck. Congress sucks. It's the Democrats' fault."

With friends like that, who need Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity?

Let's not go back to before my dad was able to vote and talk about the Korean War or WWI or WWII. In my lifetime, most mainstream anti-war activists have been Democrats - Eugene McCarthy, George McGovern, John Kerry, Howard Dean, Wesley Clark, etc. The Democratic Party is not totally anti-war, but they certainly are alot more anti-war than the Republican party has been since 1964.

Here's our top 3 Presidential candidates:

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/iraq/

Hillary: End the war in Iraq

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/

Obama: Plan to end the Iraq war

http://johnedwards.com/news/press-releases/20070710-iraq/

Edwards: let Congress know we expect them to act decisively to end the war in Iraq

Here's Kerry speaking before the Iraq war:

"As I have said frequently and repeat here today, the United States should never go to war because it wants to, the United States should go to war because we have to. And we don't have to until we have exhausted the remedies available, built legitimacy and earned the consent of the American people, absent, of course, an imminent threat requiring urgent action." John Kerry 23 Jan 2003

Here's Kucinich declaring his candidacy for President

REP. DENNIS KUCINICH (D), OHIO: Well, first of all, one cannot take a poll to determine whether this nation should go to war. The administration hasn't made its case for war. I'm proud to have led members of Congress, 126 Democrats in opposing the war. 17 Feb 2003

126 Democrats opposing the war. I think that's a majority of Congressional Democrats. And how many Republicans?

Note which party this person belongs to:

"U.S. Rep Rosa DeLauro, D-New Haven, joined a dozen members of Congress in calling on the Conference of Catholic Bishops to mobilize church members against the war in Iraq." 6 Jul 2007

A dozen members of Congress? Probably all Democrats.

Here's a blast from the not-so-distant past:

George McGovern, speech to U.S. Senate, April 25, 1967.

"We seem bent upon saving the Vietnamese from Ho Chi Minh, even if we have to kill them and demolish their country to do it....I do not intend to remain silent in the face of what I regard as a policy of madness which, sooner or later, will envelop my son and American youth by the millions for years to come."

Frustrated about the way things are? In many respects, of course. One of the most frustrating things about being on the left, though, is the long, long history of it attacking other members of the left for not being ideologically pure enough instead of being able to work as part of a coalition that actually defeats the rightwing and the rich and powerful. Especially frustrating that so many supposed progressives have learned nothing from the entire Nader debacle that got us here in the first place, and are eager to duplicate it.