Reply #12: this, unfortunately, is the quandry in which we find ourselves [View All]

part of me wants article of impeachment drawn up if nothing else than to get some damned official record that not all of America supports what they have turned us into.

the rational part says "but so?" - and looks at the timeline and the high probability that 40-something pug zombies will not convict so it will be "only" impeachment, not removal


Feingold is introducing a censure bill - it will do nothing but put people on record as either approving or not. No teeth whatsoever. But if that's all we'd get out of impeachment, maybe the expedient thing is to push it through, and focus on fighting them at every turn. There is the outside chance it might pass where impeachment would fail.

it will be a very frustrating 18 months, though. If the congress gets tough with inherent contempt, maybe the final battle will be precipitated differently. Push them very, very hard on things where you can make headway, and they likely react like any bully, maybe hand us a slam-dunk impeachment case, not requiring any investigation timeline.

That, though, is like taking out a restraining order on an abusive spouse. As I saw someone say on news yesterday, "if they kill you the restraining order doesn't matter," and in some cases it seems the order is the "last straw" that precipitates that.