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NekoChris Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 12:13 PM
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76. Once again your reactions astound but do not surprise me
It's very easy for you to rally behind illegal immigrants because you feel that everyone deserves freedom and a chance.

What I feel that people fail to grasp is the underlying issues here. The nonsense you make up about how I 'support' harboring nazi criminals; which I do not, I stated I felt for him because he was elderly and I feel sympathy for all elderly in bad situations because they are elderly, is clearly just a 'Look over there' because I'm willing to venture that when it comes down to a level headed, discussion about immigration, you will pretty much all fall silent because you have no ammunition to support it.

What benefit do we gain from illegal immigration?

What rights do people deserve who violate our laws to enter our country deserve?

What right to work do these people have when we have american born citizens who are jobless?

What reason do these immigrants have to get education funded by tax payers when probably they nor their parents are registered tax payers, because they are illegals?

I read a little on this 'Dream' act. Apparently all you have to do is say 'I have been here since I was 16' without any proof, and then you become immune to deportation while they handle your application and on top of that you get state funded tuitions to college? I had to scrounge and scavenge for my college money and I'm still hugely in debt, why should I pay more than someone who shouldn't be here in the first place? It's blanket amnesty in a sense because how are we to know how long anyone has been here? They're undocumented, they could sneak in at 19 and say they've been here 4 years. If you allow the children of illegals to participate in government programs than what procedures do you follow to stop the influx of immigrants who will abuse this? Popping out babies left and right is a pretty funny statement I tell you what but if you peel back the sarcasm; why wouldn't you want to enter a country, illegally, have a kid, and thus by having that kid become immune to deportation?

Now the people in this article may be different and not fall under every aspect of what is considered an illegal immigrant. Maybe they came here illegally and then went through steps to change that. I don't know their entire story.

I challenge the people reading this to provide me an intelligent arguement rather than rattling your sabers and throwing a temper tantrum.

The simple fact is that there are people, who are coming into the country, using methods that are against our laws despite how flawed they may be, they are OUR laws. Do you honestly think we're the only country like this either? Do you think you would get the same treatment if you went from here to there? Or from here to any country in South America? Europe? They'd ask to see your Visa, that you don't have? Oh let me take you to somewhere like, prison, until we can get you sent back home.

And on top of the fact they're coming here, they oft expect to be treated as equal citizens or BETTER. Better being that we work day after day and pay our taxes to make it through. They work, and likely work hard don't get me wrong, but probably are paid in non taxed straight cash, that they either keep or send out of the country to relatives. That's a double and even triple whammy. They take jobs americans could have, they send our money elsewhere, and they probably never paid the taxes on it on top that.

That's how I see it. Now, tell me why I'm wrong, and do it with a cool head and intelligent words.
If I was a republican, or Free Republic goon, I wouldn't be listening or caring about what you have to say. What makes me a democrat, is that I'll listen to what you have to say and discuss it.
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