You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Reply #29: I disagree [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 06:11 PM
Response to Original message
29. I disagree
NCLB is not a uniquely American phenomenon. Standardized testing programs similar to it have been in place in Canada and the UK for decades and decades. These are good things and we NEED children to have base levels of knowledge. We also need to have the government through standardized testing provide at least 50% of a child's grade for a course so that we can ensure that nothing untoward is occurring in the classroom--eg it was found in British Columbia that boys were being more or less punished by their teachers and given much lower classroom grades than they managed on standardized tests. Likewise, we need safeguards against grade inflation. We need to know that an A is indeed an A (even with the ridiculously easy nature of the NCLB instruments). If schools won't or can't meet these humble targets, then they should be closed and reorganized.

Yes. Children should be treated like "little robots" in as much as we need to recognize the overwhelming need for a minimum level of basic programming. We need to know that children are capable of discrete and quantitative skills. That they have certain definite abilities. That they know certain facts and are equipped for a life time of learning.

If they are passed along--some stupid, pointless, dumb as shit social promotion nonsense--then they merely are set up for a far more profound and lasting level of failure. For you know what happens when those ill-educated children try to go to college? They get instantly and unceremoniously flunked out.

Stop coddling administrators, teachers and students. Hold the system to at least a minimum standard. It works in other parts of the world and it will work here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC