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There is some confusion about the torture/abuse photos. I hope this clears some of that confusion up.


There are 2 sets of photos in question. They are NOT the same.

One set contains 2000 plus photos.(release date was May 28)

Additional 2000 pictures.

It added "the government is also processing for release a substantial number of other images". Up to 2,000 could be released.


The other set being the (44) photos the ACLU was expecting on May 28.

The ACLU photos in question

In a letter from the Justice Department to a federal judge yesterday, the Obama administration announced that the Pentagon would turn over to the American Civil Liberties Union 44 photographs showing detainee abuse of prisoners in Afghanistan and Iraq during the Bush administration





by Solly Mack

Not New (Warning: picture heavy and graphic)

My thread talks about the difference in the 2 sets of photos, as well as pointing out that recycled pictures branded as new is bad and why.


by Vyan

These are NOT the pictures you're looking for...

Vyan's thread speaks of the ACLU pictures that were not released on May 28, 2009 as originally planned. Whether you believe Leopold or not, the links provided by Vyan of the ACLU documents describing the content of the photos show that the photos the ACLU are waiting for ARE NOT the rape/sexual assault photos mentioned in the Taguba report. Though the ACLU would very much like to have all the photos that were promised but not delivered.


TO BE CLEAR: The Taguba Report DOES mention sexual assault. Pictures that have been released at Salon's "The Abu Ghraib Files" back this up - keeping in mind that not ALL of the Abu Ghraib pictures/video stills have been released.



by Hissyspit

Scott Horton: "The Bogus Torture Coverup" - Photos Even More Sexually Explicit Than Reported


Hissyspit's thread speaks about the additional 2000 (plus) pictures that were also not released on May 28, 2009 as originally promised - and it also says the additional photos do include the rape/sexual assault pictures from Abu Ghraib that have YET to be released.


To recap:

There are 2 sets of photos.

The set (44 photographs) the ACLU was expecting on May 28 but did not get because the Obama administration changed its mind about releasing them.

The other set consisting of an additional 2000 photos - which newspaper accounts & others claim contain the rape/sexual assault pictures from Abu Ghraib. These were not released on May 28 either. (because the Obama administration changed its mind.)


The ACLU photos (44) stem from a previous lawsuit under the Bush administration - the court said the photos had to be released and Obama agreed. When Obama agreed to release the 44 photos he also said he would release an additional 2000 (plus) photos.


Neither set of photos were released on May 28.