You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

On Getting Checks from the Government, Or, the Direct/Indirect Problem [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 11:14 PM
Original message
On Getting Checks from the Government, Or, the Direct/Indirect Problem
Advertisements [?]
I've seen a lot of posts here lately about how the generations after the Baby Boom have lost their way, have forgotten core Democratic principles. I've even agreed with many of these. But I think it's useful to consider the life experiences of your audiences when you make such arguments.

I'll say it plain: I have never received a check of any kind from the local, state, or federal government. Nothing. No unemployment, no SSI, no tax refund, except maybe that $300 that Bush contrived to bribe us with. Nada. And I don't think I'm the only one.

Now, don't get me wrong. Philosophically, I'm a Marxist, and I mean that in a classical sense. But in terms of actual life experience, the very notion that a government would send me money is just foreign. I've never experienced it. Maybe that makes me "lucky;" I don't know. But I think it has to be part of the discussion, especially since I probably live on indirect checks from the government. It is the problem of the direct and the indirect that we have to learn how to talk about.

I went to graduate school at a public university. Obviously, every check I received there for teaching assistantships and research support was "from the government." But it just seemed like it was from "my job." I teach at a private university, but if I did the math on the tuition contributions from loans and other government support, what I would learn is that some portion (and perhaps a majority) of my paycheck every two weeks is "from the government," though, again, it doesn't seem that way. No doubt this just scratches the surface: without public education, and infrastructure, and countless other social supports, my "job" wouldn't even exist, and etc., all the way down the line. But the way it appears (and again, in the classical Marxist notion of nur erscheinen, to merely appear) is different: I have never received a check of any kind from the government.

It's well and good to yell and scream. It's well and good to upbraid people for their positions. But if you want to get through to people, the idea of the direct and indirect social economic support seems to be the problem you need to hack. I'd rather see people working on how to solve this problem rhetorically than yelling and screaming and upbraiding.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC