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corksean Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:01 PM
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FBI Keeping Records on Pre-9/11 Travelers
WASHINGTON (AP) - If you're among the millions of Americans who took airline flights in the months before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the FBI probably knows about it - and possibly where you stayed, whom you traveled with, what credit card you used and even whether you ordered a kosher meal.

The bureau is keeping 257.5 million records on people who flew on commercial airlines from June through September 2001 in its permanent investigative database, according to information obtained by a privacy group and made available to The Associated Press.

Privacy advocates say they're troubled by the possibility that the FBI could be analyzing personal information about people without their knowledge or permission.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4734184,00.html
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:10 PM
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1. Meanwhile, the FBI flees from the 7 LIVING "hijackers"
who want to know how the hell they could have hijacked a plane and crashed it when they were all somewhere else at the time.

They also want to know why the hell the FBI has not removed their faces and fingerprints and personal info from its website.

The dead guy, Ameer Bukhari,
remains in the grave he has occupied CONTINUOUSLY since being placed there after his his small plane crashed on September 11 2000 -- one year to the day before he allegedly flew a great big whopping jet into the WTC.
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:22 PM
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6. oh but remember...they have the rental car
with the arabic flight manuals, and the book entitled "1001 ways to hijack an airplane and have the FBI put your names and faces all over the airwaves before they even have a complete passenger list" :eyes:
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:15 PM
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2. But the background checks used to purchase firearms are only
kept for a few hours.
:wtf:
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:16 PM
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3. It's 'Total Information Awareness' disguised as CAPPS II and its
moving offshore. Probably already in India too, but Ben Bell and company have your info right where they want it...in the Bahamas, were nosy congressmen can't provide oversight and where Republicans can do what they want with you my pretty !

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A36853-2004Oct15?language=printer
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:17 PM
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4. that was their principle "evidence" against the Buffalo cell
They had traveled to Afghanistan and at least one of them spent some time in one of Bin Laden's camps. No evidence of actual action or planning to carry out any acts of violence or even that they continued to subscribe to Bin Laden's ideas.
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:20 PM
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5. oh my god!!! They're going to see that my husband and I ...
(as well as the majority of my hubby's family) took a clandestine trip just WEEKS prior to 9/11...

we all got together in Kansas....

....to

.......to....

..............attend my husband's grandmother's funeral.

BTW--we paid for the trip with that bogus "Tax rebate" bullshit.

What assfaces.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:26 PM
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7. I flew to Lake Tahoe two weeks before
Only stayed 24 hours. Went to see the Moody Blues. Now let the Watchers figure the motivation behind that.
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Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:33 PM
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10. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm... Moody Blues
I seem to remember learning to smoke a rare brand of tobacco to MB music.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 12:53 AM
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13. You two will obviously be in a federal penitentiary soon
with Tommy Chong for a neighbor
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:30 PM
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8. OMG!!
My boyfriend and I....we went to NYC....in AUGUST 2001....just a MONTH BEFORE.....


to go to....



our friends' wedding....


in (gasp!) Manhattan!


And then we went to (oooooooooooooh!) the World Trade Center and stared at it for a long time! (because my boyfriend had never seen it up close)



And then....


we "cased out" the Staten Island Ferry.... (well, we just rode it because it's a pretty boat trip on the harbor for free.)


Shit.



My traveling days might be over.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:43 PM
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9. Too bad they are more ineterested in investigating us than who did 9-11.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:54 PM
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11. I was thinking about taking a flight the week before 911..... does
that count for anything???


In the meantime, the bushites didn't want the records of the pre-911 stock trades to be revealed. Canada leaked it.. but where they are now, is anyone's guess.

I'm sure American's flights are much much more important than these trades..... not. I guess it's all in who you know.. where you have managed to infest yourself into... and who holds the best cards.

http://www.911dossier.co.uk/pk08.html
There is growing evidence that the FBI and other government intelligence entities are more closely linked to the documented accumulation of pre-9/11 insider trading profits than was originally thought. But thus far the Joint Congressional Intelligence Committee has not publicly referred to prior knowledge of the attacks as it relates to stock transaction profits, while also failing after nine months to publicize the critical Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) "control list" report tracing what in effect were stock trading profits of death.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:36 PM
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12. Wouldn't it be more prudent for the FBI to check Sibel Edmonds'
actual evidence of wrong doing, than to keep millions of names of ordinary travelers?
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 12:54 AM
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14. It depends on what you want to achieve
You want to catch hijackers?

Or you want to intimidate ordinary citizens into giving up their rights?
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 01:24 AM
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15. "Citing privacy concerns, the FBI didn't reveal which airlines..."
Figures. Concerned about the privacy of corporations, but not the people. Fucking-a.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 11:00 PM
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16. kick
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