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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 10:23 PM
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Cuba helps Venezuela develop healthcare services
http://www.vnagency.com.vn/NewsA.asp?LANGUAGE_ID=2&CATEGORY_ID=34&NEWS_ID=136258


Havana (VNA) - This year, Cuba will assist Venezuela in building and operating about 600 medical centres as part of their bilateral cooperation programme designed to expand healthcare services in the latter, according to Venezuelan Health Minister Francisco Armada.

The minister also said that more than 20,000 Cuban medical doctors are now working in Venezuela under the "Remote Task" programme aimed at providing free healthcare services for poor people nationwide launched by the Venezuelan government two years ago.

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 10:26 PM
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1. That sounds like Communism!
If they can't affod health care, then they must DIE!

Chavez is not a saint, but he has dramatically improved life for the vast majority of poor Venezuelans.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 10:29 PM
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3. I agree,
this is not the actions of a deranged dictator who oppresses his people. Providing free health care... Oh the Torture.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 10:36 PM
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6. Ummm.. its not "free" health care
Edited on Fri Jan-21-05 10:38 PM by Mika
I totally agree with your assessment of Cuba's Head of State, except that health care isn't free.

The Cuban people have worked long and hard for it. It is the Cuban people who are supremely gracious to share what little wealth they have, in a way that they can.


In return, the Venezuelan government provides a discount on the oil it sells Cuba.




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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 11:53 PM
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8. maybe so...
but still... ruthless dictators are usually not known for their compassion for the common man.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 08:21 AM
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9. True, further proof that Mr. Castro isn't a ruthless dictator.
Edited on Sat Jan-22-05 08:21 AM by Mika
Hallmarks of a ruthless dictator?


Learn from Cuba
http://www.twnside.org.sg/title/learn.htm
“It is in some sense almost an anti-model,” according to Eric Swanson, the programme manager for the Bank’s Development Data Group, which compiled the WDI, a tome of almost 400 pages covering scores of economic, social, and environmental indicators.

Indeed, Cuba is living proof in many ways that the Bank’s dictum that economic growth is a pre-condition for improving the lives of the poor is over-stated, if not, downright wrong.

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It has reduced its infant mortality rate from 11 per 1,000 births in 1990 to seven in 1999, which places it firmly in the ranks of the western industrialised nations. It now stands at six, according to Jo Ritzen, the Bank’s Vice President for Development Policy, who visited Cuba privately several months ago to see for himself.

By comparison, the infant mortality rate for Argentina stood at 18 in 1999;

Chile’s was down to ten; and Costa Rica, at 12. For the entire Latin American and Caribbean region as a whole, the average was 30 in 1999.

Similarly, the mortality rate for children under the age of five in Cuba has fallen from 13 to eight per thousand over the decade. That figure is 50% lower than the rate in Chile, the Latin American country closest to Cuba’s achievement. For the region as a whole, the average was 38 in 1999.

“Six for every 1,000 in infant mortality - the same level as Spain - is just unbelievable,” according to Ritzen, a former education minister in the Netherlands. “You observe it, and so you see that Cuba has done exceedingly well in the human development area.”

Indeed, in Ritzen’s own field, the figures tell much the same story. Net primary enrolment for both girls and boys reached 100% in 1997, up from 92% in 1990. That was as high as most developed nations - higher even than the US rate and well above 80-90% rates achieved by the most advanced Latin American countries.

“Even in education performance, Cuba’s is very much in tune with the developed world, and much higher than schools in, say, Argentina, Brazil, or Chile.”

It is no wonder, in some ways. Public spending on education in Cuba amounts to about 6.7% of gross national income, twice the proportion in other Latin American and Caribbean countries and even Singapore.

There were 12 primary school pupils for every Cuban teacher in 1997, a ratio that ranked with Sweden, rather than any other developing country. The Latin American and East Asian average was twice as high at 25 to one.

The average youth (age 15-24) illiteracy rate in Latin America and the Caribbean stands at 7%. In Cuba, the rate is zero. In Latin America, where the average is 7%, only Uruguay approaches that achievement, with one percent youth illiteracy.

“Cuba managed to reduce illiteracy from 40% to zero within ten years,” said Ritzen. “If Cuba shows that it is possible, it shifts the burden of proof to those who say it’s not possible.”

Similarly, Cuba devoted 9.1% of its gross domestic product (GDP) during the 1990s to health care, roughly equivalent to Canada’s rate. Its ratio of 5.3 doctors per 1,000 people was the highest in the world.

The question that these statistics pose, of course, is whether the Cuban experience can be replicated. The answer given here is probably not.

“What does it, is the incredible dedication,” according to Wayne Smith, who was head of the US Interests Section in Havana in the late 1970s and early 1980s and has travelled to the island many times since.




Viva Cuba!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 10:29 PM
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2. In related news: Bush crony polluters develop healthcare crisis
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 10:30 PM
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4. but, when bush spreads his vision of democracy, poor people die. n/t
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 10:31 PM
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5. Cuba has a far better humanitarian record in Carib region than US
Cuba has sent doctors to many Island Nations and throughout the region to assist local doctors. For example they go regularly to Antigua and help at clinics throughout the island. While all the US does is to threaten Antigua -- if the people in the region had to choose between Cuba and the US -- guess who would win?

Cuba has been a good neighbor in the region.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 11:05 PM
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7. Americans travel to Cuba for some advanced medical procedures
Edited on Fri Jan-21-05 11:07 PM by NNN0LHI
http://www.marmer2020.com/pr05.htm

Doctors See Hope in Cuban Treatment for Night Blindness


by Tom Fawthrop

Globe and Mail, February 24, 1999



I was going blind before my treatment in Cuba," Ana Sheffield recalled during an interview at the Havana eye clinic for foreign patients.


Her doctors in the United States had told her there was no treatment available. But after eye surgery and ozone therapy here for retinitis pigmentosa - a degenerative eye-disease often referred to as "night blindness" - Ms. Sheffield claims dramatic improvements.


"Now I can feel improvements in sharpness, colours, and everything" she said. "Best of all now I can see at night, something I have not been able to do for nine years. I can see the stars again and it's wonderful."


Ms. Sheffield is one of 3,520 patients - including about 50 Canadians - who have visited the Camilo Cienfuegos clinic for the treatment of retinitis pigmentosa in Havana since it opened in July, 1992. More than four years after her treatment, she reports no negative affects.



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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 08:50 AM
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10. Health care access to all....Oh the Horror....!!!
Edited on Sat Jan-22-05 08:52 AM by pinerow
What will they do next...Build affordable housing...?...They must be stopped before that idea spreads!!!!

:wtf:
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 09:00 AM
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11. Actually, yes
Edited on Sat Jan-22-05 09:01 AM by Mika
There are no homeless in Cuba. Housing is a constitutional right in Cuba.

Rent cannot be more than 10% of income, and income is guaranteed if one loses one's job as part of their union contract with the government.



Viva Cuba!





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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 09:21 AM
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12. I knew that Mika; it was an attempt at gallows humor...
nt
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 09:23 AM
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13. OK. Cool
:thumbsup:


:hi:


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