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FDRLincoln Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 10:21 PM
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NYT: White House to Overhaul Iraq and Afghan Missions

See


"The White House has ordered a major reorganization of American efforts to quell violence in Iraq and Afghanistan and to speed the reconstruction of both countries, according to senior administration officials.

The new effort includes the creation of an "Iraq Stabilization Group," which will be run by the national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice. The creation of the group appears to be part of an effort to assert more direct White House control over how Washington coordinates its efforts to fight terrorism, develop political structures and encourage economic development in the two countries."


http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/06/international/06PREX.html?hp


The good news: people in the White House FINALLY realize that what's going on in Iraq is bad.

The bad news: like the good MBA-CEO that he is, Chimp has decided to "solve" the problem by reorganizing the bureaucracy in charge, and giving more power to one of the doofuses who got us into this mess in the first place (Rice).

If you've ever worked for a corporation, you KNOW how this will turn out. It won't work. At least for very long. Reorganization to fix a failed policy is just an excuse...unless the policy itself changes, the reorg won't do much.

This is like something out of Dilbert. We have the Pointy-Haired President.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 10:22 PM
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1. I assume you know what SNAFU stands for.
.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 10:24 PM
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2. I believe SNAFU is TARFU's twin!
and both seem to be in action here.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 10:30 PM
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3. Oh good, a new "Tiger Team" for better
total goal achievement quality process management.
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FDRLincoln Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 10:31 PM
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5. ISO 9000
Yes, but are our processes in Iraq ISO 9000 compliant? Maybe that's the problem!
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 10:33 PM
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6. Yes we should get ISO certified before we do anything!!!
Otherwise it will all be pointless.
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Capt_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:27 AM
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30. ROTFLMAO!!!!!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 10:31 PM
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4. And Condi Rice is in charge of this? What a disaster! Couldn't he find
someone who has a "clue?"
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 10:41 PM
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7. So they're rearranging the deck chairs again, eh?
And putting the Activities Director in charge of navigation?

So tell me, folks, is there any more incompentent ninny in this entire totally incompetent administration than Condosleeza?
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:44 AM
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32. Condi sure did a great job--
--with the Middle East roadmap. I'm sure she'll bring all her problem-solving skills to bear on Iraq!
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Search Party Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 10:43 PM
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8. doesn't reorganization = layoffs?
wow, even iraq isn't immune

what's good for the goose...

"let's make it happen, people"
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 10:55 PM
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13. How do you "lay off" unemployed desperate people?
You make them disappear.

Dear Condi is being charged with the mass grave assignment.

There was NEVER any other way to do it. NEVER any other way to reorganize or "pacify" the Middle East except by mass murder.

Either Condi fails, or Condi sticks the problem in the ground.

And then fails.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 01:27 PM
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39. Hi aammpp!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 10:46 PM
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9. This is the Goat Theory of Management
That is, the first thing you do is hire somebody to blame it on when it fucks up.

Meaning: Rice is toast. She is being set up to take a fall. Watch it unfold.

:freak:
dbt
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 11:34 PM
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23. Actually I was thinking it's Dick that is toasty
They are grooming Sleezy for VP
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:55 AM
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31. Ya think the "base" element of the GOP
Is going to stand for:

A) A woman
B) A BLACK woman

for veep? If she's on the ticket, it will be Rove's "Hail Mary." OTOH, "Toasty Dick" makes quite the mental picture.

:evilgrin:
dbt
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 10:46 PM
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10. She must not have anything to do.
As the National Security Advisor, you'd think she has enough cake on her plate. Weren't she and Powell charged with solving the Israeli/Palestinian crisis? We know how that's going. Now she gets to be in charge of converting both Afghanistan AND Iraq.
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Field Of Dreams Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 10:47 PM
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11. ISG
"Iraq Stabilization Group" = ISG = "Ideologues Sinking Grandly" or
"Idiotic Smirking George." A simple equation, really! :evilgrin:
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 10:49 PM
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12. Iraq Quagmire.... now with LEMON FRESH SCENT!
its new, its comfortable, its more of the same meaningless shit: collateral damage takes on a whole new hysterical meaning in season 2 of America's New War...
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 10:57 PM
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14. Reorganization to BushCo means creating another layer
to shield itself from transparency.

This new "group" just creates MORE jobs for their cronies and contributors. It's more quid pro quo - cash and carry gummit!

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 10:59 PM
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15. Unless 'overhaul' means 'pull out of'
I think that anything the neocons try to do will make very little difference.
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 11:00 PM
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16. Iraq is Bush's Nightmare! Its not going away as planned
They were suppose to be our slaves and we take their oil!

DANG!! :bounce:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 11:11 PM
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17. Instead of putting lipstick on the pig, he just switches to mascara.
Oh yeah, like that'll do a lot of good. Especially if CONdi runs it. Actually, sounds like a good thing. Anything she's in charge of will end up an abysmal failure, just like everything else she's touched. Another fabulous opportunity to drop the ball, CONdi.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 11:16 PM
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18. Condie is now in charge?
I don't remember that Condie has ever directly managed anything before this. So,is Bremer out? Everyones observations about this looking like a failed corporation are dead-on. Everybody is starting to say "waddaya hear??"

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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 02:48 AM
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26. This is a real worry, as Bush may think he is the cap of the ship
Once he think he can run things we are really on the rocks. He has never run one thing right yet and he is near 60 I think.Bush leaves a trail of rot in his wake.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 07:49 AM
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37. Of course it looks like a "failed corporation"

That's the only thing Captain Codpiece knows how to run. Ya gotta go with experience.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 01:59 PM
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43. Bremer is gonna take control of Afghanistan
Can someone please tell me wtf is going on?

I think the White House is on to something big, 'eh?
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 11:17 PM
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19. ATTENTION!
Sorry to shout, but doesn't anyone else realize that this is how they're going to push the Wilson affair off the front pages of the papers?!? Don't let this happen!
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 11:24 PM
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21. I'm not seeing it.
Okay. Condi Rice is taking over. The announcement is overshadowed by the Recall. Next.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 11:22 PM
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20. It ain't just SNAFU - - it's FUBAR
The USA has a hard enough time running the USA !

What ever made them think that they could run a Muslim Country ??

Look at the Homeless and Poor in any American city -

The WH obviously does NOT know how to take care of people

Just My Humble Canadian Opinion

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femmecahors Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 12:42 AM
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24. Unfortunately . . .
You are correct Humble Canadian.

Your,
Disgusted American
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 02:50 AM
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27. Well yes you are right but when God talks to you dayly,,,,,,,
Need I say more?
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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:25 AM
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29. Like the bumper sticker on my car says....
REGIME CHANGE STARTS AT HOME
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 11:27 PM
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22. It's called ---- not enough troops to handle the mission...
The tours of duty for the present troops will be ending soon and there are not enough to send over unless we send back the smae troops that returned not that long ago...That is the writing on the wall.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 02:42 AM
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25. Hum, sounds like being married.
:crazy:
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 03:12 AM
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28. ummmm... does this mean
he's putting in a t-ball field or cutting taxes?
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 07:13 AM
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33. Beginning of the End for Condi
It's make or break time for Ms Rice to show how well corporate managers do in the real world.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 07:32 AM
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34. She's the one who "forgot"
that she read a memo that said Iraq hadn't tried to get uranium in Niger. Must be more the big picture typebecause she's weak on details.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 07:41 AM
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35. All Right, Time To Put That Expertise In Obsolete Kremlinology To Work
Just so you know, according to the American Historical Review, December 1985, Rice “frequently does not sift facts from propaganda and valid information from disinformation or misinformation,” she “passes judgments and expresses opinions without adequate knowledge of the facts” and her “writing abounds with meaningless phrases.” (p. 1236)
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 07:53 AM
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38. That Condi bio is a Must Read!
No wonder they picked this idiot! She fits right in with the rest of them.

“passes judgments and expresses opinions without adequate knowledge of the facts” and her “writing abounds with meaningless phrases.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 07:45 AM
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36. These idiots are worse than Microsloth!
Iraq War Plan v.200.06.12! Yeah, re-arrange the deck chairs on the Titanic guys, that'll solve the problem! :eyes:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 01:29 PM
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40. More Orwellian Lies
"Yesterday, Big Brother renamed the "Office of Popular Enlightenment" to the MINISTRY of Popular Enlightenment because PR studies showed that 'Ministry' has a more positive q1-rating with warm and fuzzy feelings generated by it's religious connotations."

More bullshit from Bushevik Totalitarians.

Same lies, new rubric to hide them under.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 01:46 PM
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41. Is this bye bye Cheney? Bye bye Rummy?
Besides an admission of failure, this is also a slap at the neocons.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 01:51 PM
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42. Goody goody goody, good news!
...junior's number will go out of sight, right?
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