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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 10:41 AM
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Islamic Nations Call for U.S. Out of Iraq
Islamic Nations Call for U.S. Out of Iraq



By PATRICK McDOWELL, Associated Press Writer

PUTRAJAYA, Malaysia - The world's Islamic nations opened their biggest meeting in three years Saturday with a call for the eviction of U.S. troops from Iraq and the rapid restoration of its sovereignty.

The gathering of the 57 countries of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, the world's biggest Muslim political group, was split until recently over whether the Iraqi Governing Council should assume the seat held by Saddam Hussein's ousted government. But delegates said Saturday a resolution would be adopted welcoming the council.


Divisions over Iraq threatened to prevent Islamic leaders from finding a unified voice to address a widespread feeling that the war against terrorism has turned into a war against Muslims.

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=2&u=/ap/20031011/ap_on_re_mi_ea/islamic_summit_6
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 10:47 AM
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1. War against Muslims
I can see why the leaders feel that way. People have been murdered because they 'looked Muslim', and church signs have read 'Islam: America's No. 1 Enemy'. A Muslim girl was told she couldn't wear her headscarf in school (wonder if Mennonite girls would be required to remove their prayer caps, and crosses and Star of David jewlery would also be banned?). All these things have happened in the US since 9-11.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 10:51 AM
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2. Good call. Let's hope they follow it up with action
The OIC is a useless bunch of old farts, liberally sprinkled with dollahos who are very good at issuing pronouncements and very loathe to actually do anything that might jeopardize their next Rolex.

If they won't get their finger out for Jerusalem, it seems doubtful that they will do so for Baghdad.
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sushi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 11:08 AM
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5. I agree with you
Seems to me all they're good at is meeting and then announcing their resolution, but there's no follow-up action. They like the good life and don't seem to care much about their fellow Muslims in Palestine.

Actually, it's good for the West that the Muslim countries are a bit passive, but that might change if Bush doesn't quit his aggressive ways. Not that that would worry him ("Bring them on!") but I think he has enough on his plate.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 11:29 AM
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6. It is not the countries that are passive. The US installed regimes

are paid to keep the people barefooted, ignorant and quiet.

That is becoming increasingly difficult, for a variety of reasons.

The US keeps pumping in more money, more threats, and the dictators keep ratcheting up the harshness of their "anti-dissent" actions.

Strangely, this is not inspiring more love for either the US or its bitches.
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Grins Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:38 PM
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7. You're right.
They are ridiculous. Years ago we used to have HUAC, the House Un-American Activities Committee. A commentator said we should flip it around to see how uniquely stupid it was if it read, “Un-British Activities Committee”. What the hell is un-British? What’s “un-American?!! You can’t imagine the British doing anything like this. Only we can do stupid to this level. Flip their name "Org. of Islamic Countries" around and see how foolish it sounds if it was "Org. of Christian Countries". How insular can they be? How narrow? How self-satisfied and self-righteous?

OK. If you are really concerned about Iraq – then stand up! Take the responsibility that goes with it for this social and economic basket-case of a country. Fifty-seven countries can do a lot more than just bitch.

They are irrelevant. This is just as laughable as the Arab League’s statement last August. “Shortly after the 25-member Governing Council was appointed in Iraq, .. the Arab League… questioned the U.S.-appointed council's legitimacy. "If this council was elected,…it would have gained much power and credibility."

This posturing from a 22 member organization (no doubt all members of the OIC) not one of which has a leader elected in a free and fair election.

Good article on it from Tom Friedman.
<http://www.iht.com/cgi-bin/generic.cgi?template=articleprint.tmplh&ArticleId=105459>
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 06:42 AM
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15. I agree....
Too many regemes concerned about their comfort and power, and not the suffering of their Muslim brothers and sisters.

I expect lots of talk, no action. hopefully, I will be proven wrong.
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 10:54 AM
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3. note to chimpy:
57 countries

THAT'S a coalition
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 10:59 AM
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4. follow DK's advice
U.N. in and the U.S. OUT!



DENNIS J. KUCINICH FOR PRESIDENT IN 2004!!!!!!!!

:dem:
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:51 PM
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8. More from the Article



. . . ""Everybody among the Islamic countries has to make a choice," Burcuoglu said. "If there is no such resolution, then what should be the position of Islamic countries -- to stay out and wait for something else and to just observe the tragedy going on?"

But Iran's deputy foreign minister, Gholamali Khoshroo, said that Muslim countries were unanimous in feeling that the United States should leave Iraq and hand over power to Iraqis. Striking a common position on peacekeepers would not be on the summit agenda, he said.

Syria declared that it wants the conference to formally condemn Israel's airstrike against a training base for Palestinian militants on its soil. Damascus claims the base was closed years ago, while Israel insists it was being used recently by suicide bombers plotting attacks.

Syria has run into snags in the U.N. Security Council in persuading European countries to support a resolution condemning Israel, and the United States has threatened a veto. "

Well - looks to me like the whole ME is either gonna destabilize

OR

Unite solidly against UNOWHO !!

and it appears as if they are heading in the direction of an UNPRECEDENTED solidarity AGAINST the West

Pretty sick way of getting peeps to Unite

Just My Humble Canuk Opinion

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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 01:33 PM
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9. Did Turkey chime in?
Letting Turkish troops in is like giving the chemicals
to Iran to nuke the Kurds...
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 02:04 PM
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10. Sooo ? - didn't USA arm Saddam againt the Kurds in the past ??



. . . and turned a blind eye while Kurds got massacered ?

So there's TWO peeps the Kurds don trust

good ole US of A and the Turks
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DeathvadeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 02:10 PM
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11. Ya like the US is gonna leave now.......
The US is stayin untill everyone Iragie has Jesus in their heart and a bigmac in their stomach. whahahahaahaha

Let the Holy War begin!!!!!!!!
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 05:02 PM
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12. Does anyone know whom the 57 countries are, couldn't find them
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 12:56 AM
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13. I wonder if Turkey
is a member of this group of 57 countries. If they are, then they are locked in a terrible conflict: they just agreed recently to send Turkish troops to "help out" (I use that term loosely) in Iraq.

How can they possibly sit on both sides of the fence? They are muslim, after all.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 01:38 AM
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14. Here's the List of the 57 Members of the OIC




. . . Sorry for the length

- but here's the list

- I had a hard time getting it

- Both IE anad Netscape gave me problems

- anyhoo -Here's the LINK - clik on Members (near the botttom of the screen)



Islamic State of AFGHANISTAN 1969

2 Republic of ALBANIA 1992

3 People’s Democratic Republic of ALGERIA 1969

4 Republic of AZERBAIJAN 1992

5 Kingdom of BAHRAIN 1972

6 People’s Republic of BANGLADESH 1974

7 Republic of BENIN 1983

8 BRUNEI-DARUSSALAM 1984

9 BURKINA-FASO (then Upper Volta) 1974

10 Republic of CAMEROON 1974

11 Republic of CHAD 1969

12 Federal Islamic Republic of COMOROS 1976

13 Republic of DJIBOUTI 1978

14 Arab Republic of EGYPT 1969

15 Republic of GABON 1974

16 Republic of The GAMBIA 1974

17 Republic of GUINEA 1969

18 Republic of GUINEA-BISSAU 1974

19 Republic of GUYANA 1998

20 Republic of INDONESIA 1969

21 Islamic Republic of IRAN 1969

22 Republic of IRAQ 1975

23 Hashemite Kingdom of JORDAN 1969

24 Republic of KAZAKHSTAN 1995

25 State of KUWAIT 1969

26 KYRGHYZ Republic 1992

27 Republic of LEBANON 1969

28 Socialist People’s LIBYAN ARAB JAMAHIRIYA 1969

29 MALAYSIA 1969

30 Republic of MALDIVES 1976

31 Republic of MALI 1969

32 Islamic Republic of MAURITANIA 1969

33 Kingdom of MOROCCO 1969

34 Republic of MOZAMBIQUE 1994

35 Republic of NIGER 1969

36 Federal Republic of NIGERIA 1986

37 Sultanate of OMAN 1972

38 Islamic Republic of PAKISTAN 1969

39 State of PALESTINE 1969

40 State of QATAR 1972

41 Kingdom of SAUDI ARABIA 1969

42 Republic of SENEGAL 1969

43 Republic of SIERRA LEONE 1972

44 Republic of SOMALIA 1969

45 Republic of SUDAN 1969

46 Republic of SURINAME 1996

47 SYRIAN Arab Republic 1972

48 Republic of TAJIKISTAN 1992

49 Republic of TOGO 1997

50 Republic of TUNISIA 1969

51 Republic of TURKEY 1969

52 TURKMENISTAN 1992

53 Republic of UGANDA 1974

54 State of the UNITED ARAB EMIRATES 1972

55 Republic of UZBEKISTAN 1996

56 Republic of YEMEN 1969

57 Republic of Cote d’Ivoire
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 12:22 PM
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16. Wee kick - - ALL 57 Members of OIC listed right above !!
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