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Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 07:47 PM
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Schwarzenegger Asked To Explain Ken Lay Meeting
Hopefully this story gains some steam! Yes Ah-nold ... what about your good buddy, Kenny-Boy? Eh?

http://www.thesandiegochannel.com/politics/2554124/detail.html

WASHINGTON -- California governor-elect Arnold Schwarzenegger must explain the substance of his private May 2001 meeting with Enron chief Ken Lay, the Foundation for Taxpayer and Consumer Rights wrote in a letter to Schwarzenegger Tuesday.

FTCR, which was the state's most vocal critic of Governor Gray Davis' handling of the energy crisis, said that if the governor-elect did not recount the meeting by the time of his inauguration, the group would ask state lawmakers to open an investigation to uncover the substance of the meeting, including any information that might further the state's efforts to return billions of dollars that taxpayers and consumers overpaid for electricity during the energy crisis.

"A meeting with the biggest corporate crook in recent memory, while he and his firm were in the midst of ripping off the state, should not be taken lightly," FTCR wrote. "As Governor, you must explain to Californians what you were doing at that meeting, what information Ken Lay shared with you and how the meeting has influenced your thinking on energy issues."
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 07:49 PM
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1. Yeah, well, good luck with that
Don't suppose they could have publicized the letter when it may have done some good.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 07:52 PM
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3. I know...kind of after the fact. But I keep thinking
arnie's tenure isn't going to be all that sunshine and roses.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 07:54 PM
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4. It still might.
Ah-null hasn't been sworn in yet.
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Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:08 PM
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7. Maybe they were afraid that it would ...
... be lost in all of grope stories. Anyway, better published than trash-binned.
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mark0rama Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 09:10 PM
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22. Yeah, I'm sure he's gonna get to that...
...once he's explained all the grope stories, as he said we would after the election.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 07:51 PM
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2. Democrats have the power to open investigations in California
Edited on Tue Oct-14-03 07:51 PM by Democat
Democrats are the majority in the legislature, we can take Arnold down if he doesn't come clean.

The question is whether our Dems have what it takes to stand up to Arnold.

If they don't fight, he will destory them all and do whatever he wants.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:35 PM
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16. maybe the dems can use arnie to crack open bush-cheney
I can dream.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:36 PM
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17. hey, maybe the dems can move fast on it, and gray can sign off the invest-
igation.
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 07:58 PM
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5. Why...
Edited on Tue Oct-14-03 07:59 PM by brook
the wait? It's a helluva lot more important than his boorish behavior toward women - and before I get flamed to pieces - I was in the studios for many years. Yes, you really could lose your job if you crossed the wrong person. I turned down shows with known a**h***s - maybe I didn't make quite as much money as others. But I did manage to maintain ownership over my own ass. I feel for the women in question - but I know from experience that people only take from you what you allow them to take - including your dignity.


edited for bad keyboarding.

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CaptAhab Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:15 PM
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10. Exactly
It is beyond me why everybody was wasting their time with the groping allegations, when a much more important question to the people of California was the connections that Ahnold had with Ken Lay and the Bushes. I wrote letters to the editors of the LA Times and the SF Chronicle to ask them why the hell are they portraying Ahnold as an outsider who is impervious to political games, when he had a secret meeting with Ken Lay in the midst of the energy crisis (and one suspects to talk about running for governor), and his administration is full of people from Pete Wilson's staff, and people with connections to the White House. Why, why, why weren't these questions asked before the elections?
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:17 PM
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11. I lived and worked in Hollywood in the late seventies
and early eighties. The gropinator stories just made me yawn. But meetings with Ken Lay? That's serious. And he's already talking about deregulation and, oh, by the way, the front page story in the SF paper this morning was that our natural gas prices are expected to triple this winter. This guy was installed to help W & his oil company cronies continue to pick our pockets. All that remains to be seen is how much they get out of us before we cry foul.
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:34 PM
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15. Well, gee...
Maybe we even worked together. I started below the line in the late 70's. Local 44.


Glad you and Sun see through this malarkey. I just got a bill today from the gas co. for a tad over 30 bucks...haven't had the heat on in months...so I think the begining of the increase is upon us. Unless they're charging us for *standby*. :)

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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:02 PM
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6. Dems are in charge of opening investigations into arnie!
they have a majority, right? he's so hosed...
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:08 PM
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8. Well we need to send this to every newspaper in California we can
:bounce:
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:12 PM
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9. His answer will be:
"Old news" just like the sexual battery's
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monobrau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:17 PM
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12. Thanks for nothing, whores
The media sat on this until he was elected.
This is old news. Our local ABC affiliate is airing this right now.
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:41 PM
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20. In all due respect...
the story was out there. Maybe not on every front page - as it ought to have been - but one of the problems I have with the general public is that they want to be spoon fed. Dammit...you have to go out and forage! (not mad at ya - just ranting!) If I had my way, every citizen would be required to prove the possession of the powers of cognitive thinking before they're allowed into a voting booth!
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:23 PM
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13. NOW, they ask him, NOW
What a bunch of fuckwads, this sounds like one of those conservative cover stories. Oh well, FOTA asked him about it back in October and he responded blah, blah, blah. Olds news, excuse us while we rip off California

:mad:
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:23 PM
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14. now it comes out
well if something can come of this and if we can still keep the heat on him regarding his sexual assaults towards women (whatever happened to that?) maybe we can get him recalled yet.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:39 PM
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18. Jeb Bush ought to explain the $2 million contribution
...from Lay and his followers after Jeb bought 300 million dollars worth of worthless Enron stock for the State Pension Fund.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:41 PM
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19. emptying the public coffers into the pockets of large corporations is the
bush family way! they've been doing it since world war II.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:43 PM
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21. Are there grounds for conspiracy or obstruction of justice?



rocknation
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 09:33 PM
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23. "But I taught he was the head of Lay's Potatoe Chips," Ahnold.
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:05 PM
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25. ROFLMFAO!!! :)
Thank you for the laff! I needed that! LOL!! :D

:dem: :kick:
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 09:52 PM
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24. so is Ken saying NOW that it was non-consensual?

I heard he dressed provocatively and made the first move himself.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:16 PM
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26. C'mon Schwarzenegger
tell junior your gonna change parties and reveal all about Kenneth Lay who is a direct ancestor to California problems.

Give junior "Kenny Boy's" head on a silver platter.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:22 PM
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27. Do the right thing Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhnold...
Tell the truth...expose it all for us...if you are going to be a true leader like you said you would...speak out...expose the crooks...if not...you are no better than the rest of them...
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:24 PM
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28. Why didn't anyone....especially the Dem candidates...press for
this information PRIOR to the election?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:33 PM
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29. Arnold won't explain a f***ing thing
and the whore media sure won't be nagging him.
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:34 PM
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30. If Prescott Bush could get away with doing business with Hitler...
do you honestly believe that Arnold (an "admirer" of Adolf) is going to be skewered for simply "meeting" with Ken Lay?

And, besides, the California voters (the dittoheads who actually voted for Arnold) don't know...or, even give a s*** one way or the other on this issue! All they care about is that they have a celebrity / movie star governor to 'run things'. 'Nuff said.

:evilfrown:

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Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:43 PM
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31. Maybe they will give a s*** when ...
... electricity bills go back up. Probably still alot of money left in California to transfer to Texas!
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:53 PM
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34. Maybe, and maybe not. People have very short memories.
That's why we're in the fix we're in!

:evilfrown:
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:47 PM
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32. Kick This Up!
:kick:
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hedgetrimmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:51 PM
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33. COLLATERAL DAMAGE!!!.....................n/t
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:02 AM
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35. the day after
the election, I did read he mentioned that the costs of
'litigation' in recovering the money was costing the
state too much and could be settled for
about $3B instead of $9B .. hmmm . rings a bell

I think there should be an internet law that every browser is set to http://news.google.com/">NEWS for the homepage.

Just my one little empirical demand. :party:
(it's a start...)

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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:09 AM
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36. Others at that meeting
Apparently Magic Johnson was invited to the meetings also. As was Jeffrey Katzenberg of Dreamworks, Sherry Lansing of Paramount, Michael Eisner of Disney, Fred Anderson of Apple, Bob Daly of the LA Dodgers, etc. Anyone who was a major business figure in L.A. and knew Mayor Riordan was invited.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:29 AM
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38. Arnold, Riordan, and Bill Simon
were all on the invite list because they were all at least considering running for governor against Davis. The business people were probably invited for cover and to hide the real purpose of the meeting - to bring all of the possible candidates on board the "drop the lawsuit" train.

When Riordan faltered in the primary and Simon lost in the general election it became Ahnold's turn to save Enron's ass from Bustamante's lawsuit.

He'll brush off the question with a joke - probably a take-off on Kenny Who? - and the press will look the other way.

By the way on Sunday the editor of the LA Times wrote a lengthy explanation of how and why the groping story made it to the front page. If only they had gone after the slimy bastard on the Kenny Boy issue and hammered him on the state potentially losing 9 billion at least some people might have paid attention - though I doubt it. There are a lot of morons in California, and I say that as a lifelong, extremely disgusted Californian.

With dumbshit monkeyboy in the WH and apeman in Sacramento, I feel like I'm living in an episode of the Twilight Zone.
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Manix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:17 AM
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37. Arnold is going to brush this off unless he is forced to by legal means!!!
nt
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:49 AM
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39. What get's me is...
that when asked about the allegations of groping and misconduct he says "That's Old News" and then walks off...if he does the same when/if he's asked about this...in my mind he's hiding something...

And does anyone think it funny that when * met with Davis...* didn't do a thing for him...wouldn't help him at all...watch...I bet * bails Ahhhhhnold out and makes him look like a hero...
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 07:22 AM
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40. Kick!
Lets see what happens with this.
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