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CONN Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:38 PM
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Nagasaki remembers atomic attack
The Japanese city of Nagasaki is marking the 60th anniversary of its destruction by a US atomic bomb at the end of World War Two.

At least 70,000 people died in the world's second nuclear bomb.

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Some historians argue that the attack was seen as necessary because Japan had not surrendered, reports the BBC's Adam Brookes in Washington.

But others believe that the attack enabled the American military to try out plutonium as a nuclear weapon.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4133572.stm
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unrepuke Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:46 PM
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1. We're lucky they haven't remembered it with retalliation. I went to school
with a kid who was born in the interment camp at Santa Anita racetrack. What a strange country this is.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:52 PM
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2. Kick for Nagasaki rememberance day
Edited on Mon Aug-08-05 10:55 PM by uppityperson
May it never happen again. Edited to add: Hiroshima is more generally known, but I strongly believe that Nagasaki is by far the worse, uncalled for mass murder. No flames please and don't bother to try to convince me otherwise, just expressing my opinion.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:55 PM
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3. Amen.
:kick:
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:59 PM
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4. Yes, I agree.
Even after Nagasaki, it took Japan five days to surrender. The U.S. should have given Japan an extra few days. On top of that, the bomb missed its target and the industrial section of Nagasaki was left relatively sheltered by a hill.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:07 PM
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5. May it never happen again.
Edited on Mon Aug-08-05 11:11 PM by beam me up scottie
I left the house with him at about 7 o'clock. I parted with him - and he turned right, towards his factory, which was near the hypocentre.

That night he did not come home. But we could not go and find him in the northern part of the city.

On the afternoon of 10 August, his mother left the house to look for him. That night she came back and said: 'I didn't find him anywhere. Around his factory everything has been destroyed and I couldn't find the factory.'

She went out to look for her son the next day and the next day, and she continued to go out to look for him.

On the morning of 15 August she couldn't get out of bed. She had a high temperature and she was bleeding from her nose.

She died crying her son's name.


Masahito Hirose, who was 15 years old when the atomic bomb was dropped on Nagasaki, talking about his cousin.

edit to add link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4742021.stm
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:11 PM
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7. So many were killed because they had no knowledge
of radiation contamination. They innocently went to find their relatives.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:14 PM
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9. I can barely stand to read the witness accounts.
But it's the least we can do, to remind people and to make sure that this never does happen again.

Some people just don't get that it doesn't matter what "side" these people were on.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:47 PM
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10. The military has released first time films of the horror
It was ghastly beyond belief. The river was full of dead bodies trying to escape the burning heat, from infants to the elderly. That is just one scenario.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:53 PM
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11. "...and I saw them many times in my nightmares."
Edited on Mon Aug-08-05 11:54 PM by beam me up scottie
Keiko Ogura tried to help the many injured after the bombing
Keiko Ogura was eight years old when the atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima.
She still lives in the city.

I saw long lines of refugees, just quiet, I don't know why they were so quiet. There were long lines, like ghosts.

Most of them were stretching out their arms because the skin was peeling off from the tips of their fingers. I could clearly see the hanging skin, peeling skin, and the wet red flesh and their hair was burned and smelled, the burnt hair smelled a lot.

And many people, just slowly passed by the front of my house.

Parched

All of a sudden a hand squeezed my ankle. I was so scared but they said 'get me water'. Almost all the people were just asking 'water', and 'help me'.

I rushed into my home where there was a well and brought them water. They thanked me but some of them were drinking water and vomiting blood and died, stopped moving. They died in front of me. I felt regret and so scared. Maybe I killed them? Did I kill them?

And that night, 6 August, my father was so busy looking after the neighbours, but when he came back he said: 'Listen children - you shouldn't give water, some of the refugees died after drinking water. Please remember that.'


As a little girl I was so curious. I climbed up the hill, near our house... I was so astonished - all the city was flattened and demolished


Then I felt so guilty, and I saw them many times in my nightmares. I thought I was a very bad girl - I didn't do what my father said - so I kept it a secret. I didn't tell anybody this story until my father died.

There was black rain falling, black rain mingling with ashes and rubbish and oil, something like that. It smelled bad and there were many spots on my white blouse - sticky, dirty rain.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4739615.stm
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:58 PM
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12. The horror of the truth finally comes out
May we never unleash such damage ever again. Thank you.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:14 AM
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13. My mom was a refugee
in Romania during WWII.
She rarely spoke about the horrors she saw as a child.
When she did speak, I couldn't get the images her words created out of my head.
And she was like these survivors, she told me these things so that I would realize, we can never let it happen again.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:25 AM
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14. Thanks for sharing
We need to stop the inhumanity
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:30 AM
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15. I hope we can.
It's good to know there's people who can see past the war toys and kill counts and how necessary this was.

Thanks for listening.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:57 AM
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16. I live in an area that was the original target of that bomb
I have been to both Hiroshima and Nagasaki's Peace Museums and, though both visits were visits that I believe every person should make should they have the chance, I prefer the latter. The museum in Nagasaki has a small area that details the (Japanese-initiated) origins of the long path of war that led to the destruction of the city. The last time I was in Hiroshima was twelve years ago, so I do not know if they have updated their exhibit to include such a recognition, but at that time it did not have one.

The Hiroshima exhibit has remarkable models of the impact zone and remnants of the destruction of the city. Incidentally, after I toured the museum I sat in on a seminar with a hibakusha (A-bomb survivor) who told his story. One cannot come away from a visit to Hiroshima without getting a dim echo of the real horror of the event.

What I will not forget from the Nagasaki's exhibit is the short poem hand-written by a little girl about what she saw at the (Mitsubishi?) factory. The english translation, I think, is "And the Crows Plucked Out Their Eyes." It seems that the local residents went back for their relatives. However, there were hundreds, if not thousands of Korean forced laborers at the factory who had been killed by the blast. Not having families in Japan, nobody came looking for them... and they were left in the open.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:09 PM
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6. There is no defense of hitting a civilian population center
Never.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:12 PM
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8. exactly
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