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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:44 PM
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Calif.'s Democratic attorney general admits he voted for (Arnold)
Edited on Sat Oct-18-03 09:45 PM by Newsjock
AP via SF Chronicle

Attorney General Bill Lockyer, often mentioned as a possible Democratic candidate for California governor in 2006, said Saturday he voted for Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger in this month's recall election.

"It was the first time I ever voted for a Republican in my life," Lockyer said during a speech at the Institute for Governmental Studies at the University of California, Berkeley. "What Arnold Schwarzenegger represented for me was hope, optimism and change, and I want that."

... Asked why he didn't vote for his fellow Democrat, Lockyer said, "You know the people in your profession really well. You know who works hard and who doesn't. Cops know that about cops. Doctors know that about doctors. I know that about politicians."

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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:47 PM
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1. String the bastard up!
Treason--burn him at the stake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:51 PM
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2. Check his bank account.....
Sounds like some underhanded dealing!
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:55 PM
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6. Please Reply. What do you mean about his bank account???
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 12:02 PM
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39. Probably means that
Lockyer got a large check, a bribe for saying what he did.

That's my guess, anyway.
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:53 PM
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3. you know it's bad when
your own party will vote the other way. Davis was a lame duck, the dems showed no promise, no chance for change!

Big time wake up call
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:55 PM
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4. Lockyer will never be governor after this!!!!!
He abandoned his party when they needed him the most!!!
The Repugs never do this!
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:55 PM
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5. Guess he won't be filing criminal charges against Arnold.
If Arnold resigned, Cruz would become governor.

By the way, everyone in the Democratic Party knows he's planning to run for governor in 06. I guess he just doesn't want to tell the press.
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benfranklin1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 12:02 AM
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24. Lockyer talks out of both sides of his mouth, BADLY.
Edited on Sun Oct-19-03 12:18 AM by benfranklin1776
Here is Benedict Arnold voter, Mr. Lockyer prior to the election:

From the New York Times:
http://tinyurl.com/rgo0

Mr. Davis was joined at the rally here by a large number of Democratic officials, including State Attorney General Bill Lockyer.
Speaking with reporters, Mr. Lockyer called upon Mr. Schwarzenegger to voluntarily submit to an investigation of the sexual
misconduct accusations, particularly those published in the past few days in The Los Angeles Times. The newspaper wrote
about 15 women who had claimed that Mr. Schwarzenegger groped them or sexually humiliated them.

Mr. Lockyer said it would be difficult to conduct an investigation without the actor's cooperation because none of the accusers
had filed charges and the statute of limitations would apply.

"This time of year, sometimes everything goes through the lens of what's political," Mr. Lockyer said, "and those that want to
believe their candidate is virtuous tend to just disbelieve any charges, but there are too many of them. And it just seems to me
somebody ought to do an adequate investigation."



Also from the San Jose Mercury News:

`I think they're part of trying to derail my campaign,''
Schwarzenegger said of the newspaper. ``I mean, part of the
puke campaign that Davis launched,'' he added, alluding to criticism
of Davis by Attorney General Bill Lockyer. Lockyer, a Democrat, said
in August that voters might abandon Davis if he resorted to
negative campaigning and ``puke politics.''

Lockyer came to Davis' defense Saturday, saying, ``There are no
so-called `puke politics' involved here.''

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/6937951.htm

So there is Lockyer expressing concern over these serious allegations indicating that there were "too many" to ignore and categorically denying the allegations were "puke politics." Even so he now says he voted for him because the Gropenfuhrer represented "hope change and reform, opportunity?!" What hope change and opportunity was that Bill, hope for change in the energy market for renewed corporate pillage and increased opportunity for women's degradation and subjugation?

It seems abundantly clear that Lockyer is a man who plays both ends against the middle and tries to catch the politically expedient tide and surf it. In the Times article it was noted that he had described himself as a "friend of Arnolds." Thus it seems Lockyer was hedging his bets.

Now that the Gropenfuhrer has won, he is evidently trying to position himself as an Arnold supporter thinking, quite erroneously, that he will score some political points. The ultimate two faced hypocrisy. Hope he gets what he can now from his friend
since his political career is now officially winding down. Good that he showed his true colors now though since there is plenty of time for candidate recuritment for 2006. Also Mr. Bustamante may resurrect his political fortunes by fighting to ensure that the ratepayers of California get their 9 billion which was ripped off so he should not cavalierly denigrate and dismiss him as not a hard worker.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:01 PM
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7. With friends like these
who needs enemies? Can we revoke his party membership?
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:04 PM
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9. well
he just lost my vote in what election he's in next. Damn I'm very disappointed.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:04 PM
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8. I hope the Greens run a candidate
cause I will not vote Lockyear under any circumstances now. I never thought I'd do that, but if its ok for him its ok for me.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:08 PM
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10. How will he survive a primary vote?
He's toast.........
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:28 PM
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11. Did he still feel the same way after he saw
Shrub and Ahh-nold smiling together, enjoying the results of their co-conspiracy, and after hearing Ahh-nold say he was relying on Shrub's advice and assistance in CA's economic crisis?
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:34 PM
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12. This feels like a stab in the heart.....great to undermine Dems, isn't it?
And legitimize this creep??? Why didn't he keep his mouth shut at least??
He should be drummed out of the party! Is he implying that Davis didn't work at the job??
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:39 PM
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21. yeah, pretty damn stupid of him!
open mouth, insert foot...way to go, lockyer!
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 09:29 AM
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35. The implication was about Bustamone
That's my interpretation just because I know there's no love lost there. It's pretty well known that it was going to be a 3-way battle in the 2006 primaries between Bustamante, Lockyer and Angelides.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 11:59 AM
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38. phil angelides
is looking pretty good about now...:eyes:
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:42 PM
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13. This puts California Democrats in a bad way for '06
Lockyer, who has worked hard on bringing the energy pirates to justice, just alienated both the party base and the so-called party leadership with this. He should have kept his mouth shut and just let people assume he voted for Bustamante.

Speaking of Bustamante, the recall may have finished his political career as well as that of Gray Davis. Bustamante had a sizable lead in the polls at one point, only to be handly defeated by a neophyte. That's not good for somebody looking for higher office.

Who does that leave? Feinstein? She'll be 70 by then. If she runs for anything in 2006, it will be to keep her seat in the Senate.

Suddenly, the Democrats don't seem to have anyone to run against Arnold. Considering the GOP really doesn't have anybody but Arnold, that's being in a real bad way.

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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:54 PM
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14. Actually Joe Dunn will say he's the one whose been doing all that work
I'd like to see Arianna join the Democratic Party and try running with major party support.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:57 PM
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15. Revolting!
Regardless of his personal thoughts or feelings towards Davis/Bustamante, he should have thought about the energy lawsuits that will be settled for pennies with that Groper in office.

Absolutely disgusting. Has he no shame??? The gall to actually mention something like that in public.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:06 PM
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16. OMG!
That bastard! So because he didn't care much for Bustamante because he doesn't think he'll be a good governor, he votes for fvcking B rated actor that sexually harasses women??

I did say Arnold would have won even if he ran as a Democrat but this a-hole takes the cake!
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:28 PM
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17. It's official: California is ,once again, the land of fruits & nuts
Its a safe bet he'll "sign off" on Arnold's conspiracy to drop the consumer lawsuit against Ken Lay and Enron. (Arnold will try to settle the $9 billion case for 2 cents on the dollar).

Lockyer is apparently a pandering brown nose who blows (Arnold?) with the prevailing winds.

:puke:
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 12:17 AM
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25. We will survive but the politicians won't
One need not look Any farther than the MOONBEAM medfly Brown or Howdy dooty Raygun. These folks have been pretty much seen as a hinderance of anything that is CALIFORNIA, but thanks for the Fruits and Nuts call, it really does fit
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:33 PM
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18. This is also being discussed in GD
Please click here.
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freeforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:34 PM
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19. Turncoat...
This guy just committed political suicide in public. What an idiot! Unfortunately, it's this kind of thing that makes undecided people wonder how many other dems would change sides on issues. Just look at all the dems who voted for the war in Iraq, and to pass the $87 billion reconstruction bill.

The dems are going to have to get some balls if they want to win in 2004.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:38 PM
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20. oh no he didn't!!!!
i will NEVER vote for lockyer again in my friggin life! :grr: freaking DINO!
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:51 PM
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22. Sounds like he's switching parties
given the favorable settlements towards the energy companies he was probably already headed that way.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:56 PM
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23. What I can't figure out is why he even said this?
It certainly wrecks any chance for him to run as a dem candidate for governor in 06. There had to be a reason he made his vote public but I can't quite figure out his agenda in doing that.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 12:32 AM
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26. prick
will NOT vote for the asshole in the future.
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pasadenaboy Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 01:14 AM
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27. He'll never get out of another dem primary again.
nt
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 02:27 AM
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28. He's an a$$h0le and he can
got to hell. :mad: :grr: :evilfrown: I can't abide f*cking backstabbing turncoats, they're even worst than repukes.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 03:15 AM
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29. Apperently a lot of other Democrats did also
That is the only way that Arnold cold have recieved a majority of votes with McClintock in the race and registered Democrats outnumbering registered Republicans.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 04:20 AM
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30. I wonder if he is going to become a Republican
Another cowardly Democrat who is working against us rather than for us.
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SideshowScott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 05:52 AM
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31. THIS IS WHATS THE MATTER WITH THE DEMOCRATS!
Sorry for yelling..I really am..But it BURNS me up that the people WE VOTE FOR do not show the democratic unity that we do.( for the most part ) How on earth do we expect to get back the house and senate not to mention get rid of the worst president EVER when we have bozos like this voting for republicans? The california democrats need to give this guy an earful totaly!
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 09:16 AM
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32. This guy is doing nothing but pandering
I assume he also voted Yes on recall. Sorry, this guy shouldn't be the nominee for Governor in '06--why should he? he voted for the guy who will be the GOP nominee. Matter of fact, I hope somebody will challenge him in the primary--like a real democrat. What he is doing is putting his finger up to see which way the wind is blowing and right now he feels it is for Arnold.

Atty General, huh, and this guy voted for someone who has sexually assaulted how many women?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 09:23 AM
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33. Is the AG handling the Enron suit?
I thought it was Cruz, but this would make sense.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 09:25 AM
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34. Oh, Lockyer!!!!
He had aspirations of running for Governor in 2006 and the party was considering him. Say g'bye, Bill.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 09:36 AM
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36. Lockyer says he know people in the
political profession well. Never heard of the guy before, but he is well known now. Name recognition is a winner in politics and mavericks are popular at the moment, apparently. Might as well be playing video games.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 11:47 AM
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37. Top (Dem) Legal Official - votes for sexual assualter republican?
So he votes against recall... but then votes for a sexual assualter? Votes for one inbed with the energy industries who GOUGED the state and (illegally) manipulated the market and engaged in various (illegal) anticompetitive behaviors? Votes for one who acknowledged participated in small time fraud in his past?

What are we coming to?
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:17 PM
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40. ahh, so what? it's not like lockyer is running for president
Lockyer is rightfully drawing fire for having voted for Arnold. yet why is this any worse than the supposedly democratic presidential candidate, Wes Clark, voting for Reagan, Nixon, and Bush I? hey, at least Lockyer didn't help the repubs raise funds!!!

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farmboxer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 11:21 PM
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41. Who Is The Enemy? Republicans Or Democrats?!
If only Democrats would support each other instead of fighting each other. Republicans just laugh as they steal elections with their voting machines and monopoly of the media.
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