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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 07:53 PM
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Poland Says Iraq Mission Strains Budget
Poland Says Iraq Mission Strains Budget
By VANESSA GERA, Associated Press Writer

WARSAW, Poland - Poland's new defense minister on Friday suggested that additional U.S. aid would be a crucial factor in determining whether to continue playing an active role in the war on terror.

A day before heading to Washington, Defense Minister Radek Sikorski said meetings with top U.S. military officials would help Poland reach a decision within the next few weeks whether to keep its 1,500 soldiers in central Iraq or stick to the last government's plan to bring them home next month.

Sikorski, however, said the war on terror has strained the resources of this country of 39 million, which is still emerging from communism and is struggling to deal with the burdens of being a NATO member.

President Bush, meanwhile, faces increasing pressure from critics. The U.S.-led coalition in Iraq is also facing obstacles, with Bulgaria and Ukraine to begin withdrawing their combined 1,250 troops this month, and six other countries, including Poland, considering bringing their soldiers home.

"We've invested a lot of energy — both blood and treasure and government attention, and political capital — in the mission and we certainly want to end it with success," Sikorski said. "By success, I mean handing over our sector of responsibility to a democratically elected Iraqi government ... and I think they are actually pretty close to success."

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051202/ap_on_re_eu/poland_us_iraq

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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 07:58 PM
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1. Uh... Don't forget Poland?
*blink* *stare* *blink* *crickets chirping*
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 08:06 PM
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2. I wonder what Bush has on them anyway
Why on Earth would they participate in this war anyway? They should be focusing on their own country at this point. Fifteen hundred troops isn't all that much, but considering their present state, it's too much, imho.

I guess I'm beginning to feel so sorry for everyone involved in this travesty that my perspective is skewed.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 08:27 PM
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4. Isn't Poland where some of the secret CIA prisons are located?
Somehow I wonder whether there was some bribery involved.

Tucker
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 08:40 PM
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8. I think you might have something there!
Surely there is more than meets the eye.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 08:30 PM
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5. I work with a Polish ex-pat...
she HATES *ush! Her family is suffering financially in Poland. She says that Poland was promised a lot of pie-in-the-sky, and they got only pie-in-the-face from the chimpster.

Apparently they are still awaiting their great reward, and many (at least from my co-worker's perspective) are angry and tired of waiting.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 08:39 PM
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7. I feel for them
We are all in the same boat in that regard.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 08:53 PM
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9. My sympathy is limited.
MOST other countries around the world told us to FUCK OFF.
Poland could have too.

I of course am sorry for her and her family, 'cause they were against the chimperor even when they lived in Poland!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 08:54 PM
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10. Hell, given the circumstances
I'd tell us to fuck off too! It's stupid to support this war. Anyone who told us to fuck off in that regard is ok by me. I wish they all had.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 09:37 PM
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12. ALMOST all of them did.
Its one of the reasons I'm so pissed off at the "Yes Voting" dems re: the IWR.

The WHOLE WORLD (I forgot Poland!) chose NOT to align with *.

The majority of our representatives also said NO.
The aisle jumpers were thumbing their noses at the whole planet.

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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 08:56 PM
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11. * is one of those phony real estate scammers you see on late night TV.
They tell you on the phone how you will be making $15,000 in a few months and driving a Mercedes, all that BS.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 09:39 PM
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13. I'm sure they thought they'd be awash in oil profits by now.
Edited on Fri Dec-02-05 09:40 PM by PassingFair
My friend's family owns a trucking company in Poland. Now they're trying to move over here...
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 08:13 PM
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3. I'd bet Bush's "coalition of the willing" came with foreign aid strings
attached. It would fit this Administration's MO...sign on and we'll see you get a good piece of the US foreign aid pie.

Some may call it diplomacy, some might call it bribery. I've known drug dealers to call it "kick down".
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 08:38 PM
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6. Poland has been historically for sale.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 10:43 PM
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14. Well, now that's interesting.
I didn't realize Poland was paying with cold hard cash. I thought that somehow, the Pentagon was greasing their palms to be part of the 'Coalition of the Willing'. This is the first I've heard of other countries actually paying.

I knew that England was paying for their war effort through a trust fund. But I thought that trust fund was used up, about 1 1/2 years ago. I never heard anything further, and just assumed that RumsFailed was picking up the tab.

Whow, what a deal! Sign up for Bush the Clown's Losing War. Go broke in the process. Have your citizens hate you, and vote you out of office in the next election (See Aznar of Spain, and what happened to him).
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-05 11:06 PM
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15. Hey, Poland,get the money where we get it.
China. Yeah. Just borrow it from China. That's the ticket. :sarcasm:
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madmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 06:23 AM
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16. Its trashing our budget worse
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