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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:38 PM Original message |
Rumsfeld warns of Islamic superstate if U.S. leaves Iraq too soon |
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madmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. What bullshit |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Formerly known as the "Domino theory", a couple decades back. nt |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 09:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
36. I was part of that once |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 10:19 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. You and a lot of others, Saigon. How soon we forget, eh? nt |
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 11:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
69. Trade-secrete (TS-SI, code-word) ... pay close attention to this. |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-05 07:24 AM Response to Reply #69 |
75. Thanks Mac |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-05 01:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
80. Same verse of the Cheney song.... |
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MidwestTransplant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. So does that mean he thinks we would be safer with a contained Saddam? |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Of course -- Saddam was our bulwark against Shi'a fundamentalism |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. It means it was really stupid to illegally invade Iraq, and now |
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teryang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Well said |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
4. Psst, Mr. Rumsfeld? |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
5. This is an old man spouting an old man's lies |
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dcfirefighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
8. An "Islamic superstate" that "threatened legitimate governments" |
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Che_Nuevara (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 04:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
29. "legitimate" meaning ... "Christian" (n/t) |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 06:44 PM Response to Reply #29 |
83. No, in this case "legitmate" means "Saudi" |
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grytpype (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
9. "haven for terrorists and the base of a spreading Islamic superstate" |
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gordianot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
10. Rumsfield is correct there will someday be an Islamic superstate. |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
11. he didn't think of that before going in ???????????? |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 11:09 AM Response to Reply #11 |
44. no, the NeoCon BushCo didn't think of ANYTHING having to do with the after |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 05:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
81. "We'll be greeted with flowers"... "Cakewalk"... "Six months, tops." |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 06:45 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. "slam dunk" |
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tiptoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
12. Rummy & Bush use fear of terrorism like Hitler used fear of Communism |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
14. Jeez, what he didn't say is such a scenario is likely JUST from the war, |
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billbuckhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Why didn't they think of this obvious outcome before they started the war? |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. This was the PREDICTED outcome |
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Charles19 (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 10:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. It was OBSOLUTELY predicted |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 11:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
71. So true...it's a circular argument. eom |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
15. in other words our primary goal is to keep the arab world |
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Che_Nuevara (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 04:31 AM Response to Reply #15 |
30. yes, but only because we can't credibly |
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cantstandbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
17. They were warned of an Islamist super state if US invaded Iraq. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
18. What the Hell do I care? |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
19. You should have thought of that before you invaded. |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
20. Perhaps. Guess who created it? |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
22. also the boogey man will GRAB you! nt |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
24. If this is true, then it must be working...... |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
25. And the alternative is......... |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
26. I thought this wasn't supposed to be a war on Islam |
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BikeWriter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
27. What Iraq needs is a strong, brutal, non-sectarian dictator! |
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ckramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 09:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. How about rearm Saddam? |
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DinahMoeHum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 09:38 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. LOL !! These days Saddam must be laughing himself to sleep |
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ckramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 09:56 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Someone must have passed information to Saddam telling him that |
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DinahMoeHum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 10:55 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Considering that hardly anybody in the WH, State Dept, CIA, or Pentagon |
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BikeWriter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 06:24 PM Response to Reply #32 |
58. Yes, and he (and his staff) should be punished for it. |
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Monkey see Monkey Do (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 10:48 AM Response to Reply #27 |
41. A State Dept guy interviewed a week or so ago advocated brining back the |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 10:18 PM Response to Reply #41 |
65. this is the problem: WTF are we in the middle of their civil war? A: * |
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pinniped (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 03:32 AM Response to Original message |
28. Legalize drugs or not, these psychos are on some illicit $hit. |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 07:06 AM Response to Original message |
31. so we can never leave? come on, rummy... you're an idiot. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
34. This like one of those screwed up adoption cases you read about. |
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hatrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
35. What year is it, 1091? The advancing Caliphate? |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
39. Iraq was poor to begin with and is even more poor now. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
40. Mega, super, mother of all... |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
43. Neocons have CREATED this situation. |
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cyberpj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 11:28 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. On purpose - to suck off war profits forever. nt. |
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donkeyotay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-05 12:19 PM Response to Reply #43 |
79. They are masters of deceit. |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
45. SUPERSTATE ! ! ! |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
47. Rumsfeld has been so correct about everyhing else. |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 11:45 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Considering there are a whole lot of islamic people there |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 11:53 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Neocons are only pretending |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
49. Won't be as big as the christian superstate |
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demobrit (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
50. This Guy is just a complete and utter asshole |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
51. Oh, I GET IT!!! |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 04:09 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Notice he didn't say Radical Islamic state..... |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
53. CRUSADE! |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
55. "Rumsfeld warns |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
56. Gee, do you mean that... |
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Podface (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
57. Well... |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
59. The rest of the world is beginning to fear the U.S., not Islamic states. |
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da_chimperor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
60. I think he has been reading too many Tom Clancy novels. n/t |
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pbca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
61. It's possible, but so what? |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 07:58 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. An Islamic state won't happen |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 10:11 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Yeah but notice how both Sunnis and Shiites are now against us? |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 11:16 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. With the exception of anti-U.S. hostility, they are against each other |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-05 02:18 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. There seems to be evidence that we are aggravating the situation.... |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-05 10:28 AM Response to Reply #74 |
78. The foreign insurgents are the one instigating Sunni-Shiit conflict |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
63. It's Already an Islamic State Because of YOU RUMSFELD |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
66. Let's break it down shall we? (my comments in italics) |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
67. Of Course |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 10:39 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. LOL. Excellent. The Islamo-Borg is coming. |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-05 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
72. yes and Tamiflu is the answer |
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miles55 (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-05 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
73. Well no shit..... |
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devinsgram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-05 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
76. I had the same reaction when I read the headline |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-07-05 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
77. Right. That shows you how much Rummy understands about the.... |
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pschoeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
82. neo-con Christian superstate = good, Islamic superstate = bad |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
85. Well, at least he's admitting that he completely screwed up |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
86. Islamic Superstate? You mean like...the Ottoman Empire? |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
87. Rummy, was this covered in the war plans that were not on Bush*s desk? |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
88. Yeah right, this guy has obviously never lived among arabs |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
89. That guy has as much credibility as Joe Isuzu. |
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