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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 11:43 PM
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NYT: Skepticism Seems to Erode Europeans' Faith in Rice
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice did what was expected, many people in Europe said Tuesday, after her meetings with Chancellor Angela Merkel and other German officials. She gave reassurances that the United States would not tolerate torture and, while not admitting mistakes, promised to correct any that had been made.

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"It's clear that the text of the speech was drafted by lawyers with the intention of misleading an audience," Andrew Tyrie, a Conservative member of Parliament, said in an interview. Mr. Tyrie is chairman of a recently formed nonpartisan committee that plans to investigate claims that the British government has tacitly condoned torture by allowing the United States to use its airspace to transport terrorist suspects to countries where they are subsequently tortured.

Parsing through the speech, Mr. Tyrie pointed out example after example where, he said, Ms. Rice was using surgically precise language to obfuscate and distract. By asserting, for instance, that the United States does not send suspects to countries where they "will be" tortured, Ms. Rice is protecting herself, Mr. Tyrie said, leaving open the possibility that they "may be" tortured in those countries.

Others pointed out that the Bush administration's definition of torture did not include practices like water-boarding - in which prisoners are strapped to a board and made to believe they are about to be drowned - that violate provisions of the international Convention Against Torture.

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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:09 AM
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1. Skepticism or common sense?
Lying bitch. HOw anyone can sit there and listen to her with a straight face I do not know.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:00 AM
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2. Since when does total disbelief equate to 'skepticism'?
NO ONE believes anything said by the bush admin outside of the U.S. One only tries to count the lies per speech which, often, is every second word out of their mouths.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:02 AM
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3. Sure, did this evil Beavis get the memo that her POS boss wanted...
those torture provisions removed?

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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:10 AM
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4. it depends on what the meaning of "is"....is hahahaha
bad clinton, good rice, for parsing language for self service

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:01 AM
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5. It's clear that the text of the speech was drafted by lawyers with the int
A clear intent to mislead.. What else needs to be said. That is SOP for these thugs..
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:43 PM
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6. Good for Mr. Tyrie!
That American BS doesn't wash w/ him at least.

Gyre
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