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losdiablosgato Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:51 PM
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Chinese police 'shoot protesters'
Chinese armed police are reported to have opened fire on protesters in the southern province of Guangdong, shooting dead at least two people.
Witnesses told US broadcaster Radio Free Asia the incident happened after hundreds of police tried to disperse up to 1,000 demonstrators near Shanwei.

Protesters were angry because they had not been compensated for land taken by the government to build a power plant.

The incident is the latest in a series of such disputes in rural China.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4507130.stm
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DFWdem Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:54 PM
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1. Why is 'shoot protestors' in quotes? n/t
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losdiablosgato Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:59 PM
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3. Because the BBC put it that way, I copied and pasted.
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darkmaestro019 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:08 PM
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4. they put gay marriage in quotes too, on Bushwatch
and that is in the headline about it being made legal.


Dear BBC: You could save a lot of printing costs by laying off the implied "so-called" key. Oh yeah, and a lot of eyerolling by people tired of your shit, too.

I can vaguely, disgustedly, KINDA understand why they'd do it to gay marriage, but what's so-called about shooting protestors? The shooting? The protestors?
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greenleaf Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:14 PM
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21. the quotes identify reports by eyewitnesses
ie spoken words, "Thats what quotes are for."I said to myself.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 06:59 PM
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22. Hi greenleaf!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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DFWdem Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:15 PM
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5. Sorry, I meant why'd the news org. do that
If the police did in fact shoot the protestors then it doesn't need to be in quotes. If the news org. hasn't confirmed the story they could say "reportedly".
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:56 PM
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2. Lower wages and less environmental regulation not the only reason
for outsourcing jobs. Here, America, is what the Corporatists want, license to silence dissent, any way they can.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:35 PM
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6. Facsists Pigs.
Sounds like * to me.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:42 PM
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7. A left jack boot up your ass feels the same as a right jack boot
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 01:48 PM by slackmaster
For ordinary citizens, people who aren't members of the government or economic or military elite, living under a far authoritarian left system is no different than living under a far right system. In China people are having land taken for government projects. Here our Supreme Court has said it's OK for govenment to take peoples' land for economic development. The result is the same for the people who are displaced.

Both extremes push patriotism ad nauseum. Both take personal choices away from individuals. Both give all power to the central government.

ETA my Subject line is a quote from a former coworker, who is Chinese.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 06:57 PM
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13. Authoritarianism is bad in ANY form.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 02:05 PM
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8. Did they harvest their organs?
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losdiablosgato Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 02:08 PM
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9. But it was at Everyday Low Prices
The Great Walmart of China
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 02:36 PM
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10. And the Chinese are holding U.S. debt?
How long 'til protestor shootings become acceptable here?
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 02:57 PM
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11. I thought they were acceptable here.
Kent State, Greensboro, that woman in Boston last year, gunning down the Black Panthers etc. etc.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:08 PM
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12. and don't forget the dozens of wobblies murdered during the labor movement
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:32 PM
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14. An Injury to One is an Injury
to ALL!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:38 PM
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15. nicely said
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 08:51 AM
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16. kick
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 08:51 AM
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17. Chinese authorities kill peasants protesting against withdrawal of their l
http://english.pravda.ru/world/20/91/366/16612_China.html

Locals say that up to 20 people were killed with automatic fire

The Chinese authorities acknowledged the fact of killing three and wounding eight people during the suppression of a protest action in the country's south.

A large group of villagers from the province of Guangdong gathered near a newly-built electric power plant on Tuesday last week. The people intended to set out their protests against the low compensations for land withdrawn from them during the construction of the station. Several people were killed as a result of the clash with the police.

Xinhua news agency reported that the masterminds of the mutiny were acting in an unseemly way. The first attack on the electric station took place on December 5. The generation of electric power was suspended for seven hours as a result of the assault. The next day, about 170 people wielding knives, sticks, incendiary bottles and bombs organized another riot. The people used their arsenal in action attacking the electric station. They even managed to set the building on fire and damage several mechanisms. The police put down the mutiny very quickly; two of the attackers were arrested
more...

The Chineese workers are getting extremely angry...My heart goes out to them...
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 08:51 AM
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18. Thanks for this. I wasn't aware of it.
"People's protests against corruption, exactions and withdrawal of farm lands have become frequent..."

We had to get it from Pravda.

Their only form of redress to government theft is to attack. And perhaps twenty are dead. I wonder when our freedom president will be striving to bring Democracy to China?

I wonder also what the pollution controls will be on the electric plants being built.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 08:51 AM
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19. Foreign news bureaus have been cut by news organizations
American corporations don't see any profit in foreign news coverage. It's easier to cut overhead and just publish releases from government sources and right wing corporate lobby groups.
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rayofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 09:09 AM
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20. Pollution controls??
Oh yes - the Chinese government blocks "objectionable" websites. That is what they think of when you say "pollution control".
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