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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:39 AM
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Six Arrested in Northwest Ecoterror Cases
Friday December 9, 2005 3:01 PM


By GENE JOHNSON

Associated Press Writer

SEATTLE (AP) - Six people have been arrested in connection with ecoterrorism attacks dating to 1998, including a fire at an Oregon poplar farm set at the same time as a devastating blaze at the University of Washington's Center for Urban Horticulture.

The university fire - one of the Northwest's most notorious acts of ecoterrorism - was set early on May 21, 2001. About 110 miles away in Clatskanie, Ore., fire ripped through buildings and vehicles at the Jefferson Poplar Farm, causing more than $1 million in damage. The Earth Liberation Front, a shadowy collection of environmental activists, claimed responsibility for both fires, which caused no injuries.

The arrests were made Wednesday in New York, Virginia, Oregon and Arizona, and each defendant has been indicted in the Northwest, the U.S. attorney's office said. Besides the tree farm fire, the attacks included three other arsons in Oregon, a $1.2 million fire at a U.S. Department of Agriculture facility in Olympia, and the toppling of a Bonneville Power Administration transmission tower near Bend, Ore., as the millennium drew near.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Andrew Friedman declined to say Thursday what led to the arrests after years of investigation. The FBI and the Building Industry Association of Washington recently began offering $100,000 rewards for information in ecoterror cases.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5468697,00.html
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:44 AM
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1. where's osama?
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Bloodblister Bob Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:55 AM
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2. String 'em up. nt
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:04 AM
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3. these six wasted the best years of their lives for nothing, meanwhile...
no effect on helping the environment was achieved AT ALL. We must all be wary for provocateurs. I'm willing to bet I KNOW who the asshole is who talked many of these people into taking action. In fact I lived across the street from him at one point. HE wound up with a lot of money to open a business and off free after serving as "non-official" spokesman for ELF. He has since given lectures advocating the use of violent tactics for social change (when has that ever worked?). He's not an activist, he's a walking disaster, and probably directly responsible for these six and maybe other people too spending decades in jail. So yes, I call craig rosebraugh an agent provocateur. Fuck you Craig.
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:05 AM
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4. these people are NOT our 'friends'
Edited on Fri Dec-09-05 11:06 AM by Rich Hunt
So don't even START with the phony pseudo-left 'defense'. If you go far 'left' enough, you start running into people who are not 'left' at all, but veritable Nazi 'cleanse the earth' types who are basically sabotaging any sincere radical environmental movements. Extremist tactics ATTRACT people who do not have humanity's best interest in mind.

This is terrorism. People who ask, 'where's Osama' would like nothing better than to ignore this country's history of domestic terror, and the potential for future domestic terror attacks.

As I said before, the official 'narrative of terror' around here has changed. Why I recall how, after 9/11, people were saying how the focus on the middle east would certainly encourage the domestic extremists who were getting most of the attention pre-911. Now in the past four years, these people have magically vanished? Watch out for this sort of deliberate 'amnesia'.

The real reason this has happened is because the right-wing extremist groups love to 'worm' themselves into 'position' wherever they can - right-wing groups AND extreme 'left' groups. What's more, how do they make their living? Through the same 'illegitimate' methods that are tied to people who are more 'established' and who have legitimate jobs. That is the source of this massive cover-up - affluent right-wing sleazeballs who 'follow the money' and who might work in sales and marketing and PR jobs have ties to the extremists, both through 'business' and through private surveillance and harassment of their perceived 'enemies', and also through whatever cops or rent-a-cops or cop impersonators they can get to 'enforce' their own demands.

Terror is terror. Some people would just like to pretend that all the 'terror' comes from the middle east.

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400Years Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:49 PM
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14. Way over the top there Rich


You may want to demonize somebody for engaging in property damage, that's fine.
This sounds like nothing more than vadalism. They took the risks and now they
will probably go to jail, if they did it. But equating these actions with the likes of
Timoty McVeigh etc. is just way too over the top.

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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:57 PM
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17. horseshit
Edited on Fri Dec-09-05 02:08 PM by Rich Hunt
Childish actions attract childish covertly right-wing provocateurs. Setting fires isn't 'vandalism'.

We're turning the focus in this country to domestic terrorists and their networks, their friends, their allies-through-silence, etc..

And I love how you all use 'Timothy McVeigh' as a private threat to me and a 'code'. I asked you before - how come you use McVeigh and not Nichols?

Learn to adapt, stop using the same codes and phrases that you've been programmed to use. The old guard activists recognize this shit. It's forty years old. If you don't want to be thought of as a cult member, just spitting back what you've been programmed to spit back, don't write like one.
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400Years Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 02:00 PM
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19. ah, chock full of name calling and venom, you are
Edited on Fri Dec-09-05 02:10 PM by 400Years
If you want to have an intelligent debate, discussion, or exchange, I would suggest you stop acting like a child and drop the name calling.

I don't use the spellcheck that often but if you want to base your "debate" on petty things go ahead.
I tend to type too fast and leave letters out. I know my typing is lacking but that is not
much of a talking point there, Rich.

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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 02:35 PM
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22. Nor are they terrorists
Though i figure if one would want people to seem unfriendly, calling them "terrorists" does help.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:10 AM
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5. ALF/ELF are losers delaying adulthood
They won't last in jail. They'll be punked out in no time.
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400Years Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:43 PM
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13. vandalism is not terrorism

just because they use the label does not make it so, but the propaganda works wonders on some people.

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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:54 PM
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15. Last I heard, arsonists are not charged with vandalism
Nor is arson vandalism. Punks.
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400Years Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:57 PM
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18. no "arsonists" are charged with arson not "ecoterrorism"

that is an invented word just like "islamofascism" used to spread rightwing propaganda.

If you want to buy into and spread right wing memes go ahead but I won't buy into it.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 02:27 PM
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21. The article uses "ecoterrorism" it does not say they were charged
The Guardian's words, not mine. So tell them they have a problem with right wing memes.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:11 AM
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6. Question - until 9/12/2001, wasn't "eco-terrorism" really named
vandalism?

Until Rush Limbaugh decided to go after "real terrorists" - the "eco-"terrorists . . . not the KKK nor the black church-bombers . . .

I said it the day after it was announced that the Patriot Act would go after terrorists - that the "leftish" groups, whether just plain moderates or the freakishly radical, would be called Terrorists, and the KKK would be free to do as they please . . .
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rolleitreks Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:11 AM
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7. Hang 'em high. n/t
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:39 AM
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9. Capital punishment is unavailable in property damage cases.
" . . . in which there were no injuries."

But, do tell, why would you want to "hang" these people anyway?
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rolleitreks Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:50 AM
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10. Metaphorically speaking, of course. How about "Throw the book at them"
instead? Criminals are criminals and political criminals such as these are the worst of them all. If you are "brave" enough to make the outlaw statement, you should be brave enough to pay the price.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:37 PM
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12. Civil Disobedience practice would require that they "pay the price."
But the worst criminals are those in the White House waging wars and committing mass murder in the world -- not the people burning down houses in the forest, which do not result in any injuries.

We seem to have our priorities catastrophically inverted.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:15 AM
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8. "$100,000 rewards for information in ecoterror cases" :SOMEONE
should offer a reward leading to the arrest/arraignment/trial of GWB on 9/11 charges.

About $50million would do it.
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:04 PM
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11. this just doesn't sound like the kind of thing an 'ecoterrorist' would
attack. If I were one I would attack chemical plants and all those places that pollute. Not tree farms or horticulture places.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:54 PM
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16. How do you know they're guilty?
And, if they are, how do you know who is funding and organizing them?

Why do you trust US prosecutors (who are under Bush's, Cheney's and Alberto "torture memo" Gonzales' thumb)?

And why do you trust what you read from war profiteering corporate news monopolies?

I'm not saying there aren't self-defeating crazies in the world, at all points along the political spectrum, or that these accused people are not guilty as charged. I'm just asking you to THINK, CONSIDER THE SOURCE, ANALYZE, WEIGH INFORMATION CAREFULLY and SEARCH FOR ALTERNATIVE VIEWS AND INFORMATION.

I'm familiar with the Judi Bari case, for instance, in which the FBI and Oakland police trumped up charges against Judi and Daryl Cherney--that they had bombed THEMSELVES--which was completely disproved, and later millions awarded to Judi's heirs and Cherney for false arrest and slander. FBI and police failed to follow up leads on the real perps, who were never caught.

A couple of years ago, I saw a newspaper page on which the editors had placed two items: a photo of a perfectly legal, proper logging protest at a forest gate, and a completely unrelated article about "eco-terrorists." This slated editorial placement and juxtaposition was clearly intended to smear the logging protesters by association with the unrelated "eco-terrorists"--in the minds of non-alert readers.

Who benefits from "eco-terrorism"? The environment? Other environmental groups? The environmental cause? The people? Nope. The beneficiaries are the corporate propagandists and corporate predators who are destroying our planet. Keep that in mind, when a corporate-run government, not known for its truthfulness, hunts down and prosecutes alleged "eco-terrorists" with attendant publicity. And don't believe everything you read or that prosecutors say.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 02:38 PM
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23. what he said
(love your tag line)
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420inTN Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 02:02 PM
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20. Scorched Earth Environmental Protection -- nice
Let's save the planet by burning it clean. :eyes:

:wtf: :argh: :shrug: :tinfoilhat:
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 06:00 PM
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24. This is the future.
This is part of the reason for the Patriot Act. As environmental conditions continue to decline, and they will at a break-neck pace if bu$h and his masters have their way, more people will go over the edge. And the definition of ecoterrorism will broaden as property and profits try to squeeze the last quarters profit out of an increasingly depleted Earth.

I don't envy the young.
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