NYPOST: Defeatist Dems Face White Flag (RNC Web Ad)

Bush Cites Doubt America Can Win War on Terror

"I don't think you can win it," Mr. Bush replied.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/31/politics/campaign/31bush.html?ei=5090&en=b257721394890931&ex=1251691200&adxnnl=1&partner=rssuserland&adxnnlx=1133896668-y+cvuHYc9w0+vgVJg3qZ9g

Republican senator Chuck Hagel said “The reality is that we're losing in Iraq."

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/050627/27bush.htm

"We can't kill them all," Lt. Col. Frederick P. Wellman said. "When I kill one I create three."

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/11879336.htm

Bill O’Reilly said: “Fox News correspondents tell me they can't go out for a cup of coffee in the capital city because it's too dangerous. That's brutal. Based on that scenario, the war is not being won.”

http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/05/11/20/100opi_o'reilly001.cfm

Joint Chiefs Chairman Richard Myers, with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld at his side, said: "There is no way to militarily lose in Iraq. There is also no way to militarily win in Iraq."

Doh!

http://www.defenddemocracy.org/research_topics/research_topics_show.htm?doc_id=226299&attrib_id=7511

why do they do this in public venues, our troops our listening. They are hurting our troops morale.

http://www.bismarcktribune.com/articles/2005/12/09/news/state/106702.prt


WASHINGTON - North Dakota Rep. Earl Pomeroy is accusing Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean of overstepping his bounds, saying the former presidential candidate should not give up on the war in Iraq.

On Monday, Dean likened the war in Iraq to Vietnam and said, "The idea that the United States is going to win the war in Iraq is just plain wrong."

"My words to Howard Dean are simple - shut up," Pomeroy told WDAY Radio in North Dakota on Thursday.

Pomeroy later told the Associated Press that he is tired "of the overblown rhetoric on both sides."

"We have young men and women with their lives on the line," he added. "The debate has fallen far short of what they deserve."

Pomeroy said Dean wasn't representing Democrats like him when he discussed the war.

"He is not hired to make major policy announcements on behalf of all the Democrats," Pomeroy said. "As our party chairman I believe he needs to focus on the nuts and bolts of winning elections."

Dean backtracked on his statements somewhat Thursday, saying his assertion that the United States cannot win the war was reported "a little out of context," and that Democrats believe a new U.S. strategy is needed to succeed there.

A spokesman for the Democratic National Committee declined to comment on Pomeroy's remarks.

Pomeroy said he also is frustrated with Republicans who have politicized the war and a recent House debate on Iraq that became heated and angry. During that debate, Ohio Republican Rep. Jean Schmidt implied that Democratic Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., was a "coward" because he called for troops to pull out of Iraq. Schmidt later said her remark about Murtha was a mistake.

"I thought the debate on the House floor was shameful," Pomeroy said. "It was loud, strident and partisan."

Pomeroy, who has visited Iraq three times, said he believes the United States must stay in the country for now to achieve progress on national security, the creation of a stable government and the establishment of a functioning economy.

In 2002, Pomeroy joined 215 Republicans and 80 other Democrats in voting to authorize force in Iraq.

If BushCheneyRumfelled were in charge of Hitler's armies, they would have gotten bogged down trying to conquer Poland.

that their feelings would somehow be hurt by people criticizing the war thousands of miles away, that they then would become poorer soldiers as a result. That suggests that Republicans believe the troops are a bunch of hypersensitive panzies.

nice writing: Republicans today plan to release a Web video showing a white flag of surrender waving over Democrats like Howard Dean and Sen. John Kerry to highlight their negative comments about U.S.soldiers in Iraq this week.

knocking Bush and Iraq = "negative comments about U.S.soldiers in Iraq" ... idiots

cut the crap.Iraq is a quagmire and no white flags over anybody's head is going to get us out of this mess.

:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

They'll make damn sure that everybody else goes first.

:toast:

I have a grandson (USMC) who has already done two tours (6 mos. each) over there. Keeping my fingers crossed and hoping the best for all the many Americans who have sons and daughters over there.

Or will it be considered 'too negative' if they have one. Let's see how fair the media is with this since they wouldn't permit the billboards the DNC wanted to do against Schmitt.

:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

MoFo's don't get it that the public is on to them. Schiavo, Cindy, New Orleans, Tom Delay, Abramoff, Plame-gate, torture-gate...oh yeah, lots of people will pile on the support believing every word. Not.

discuss.

if Dean loses his job. Many see him as a liability.

most senators added together! Go Dean!!!

:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

They can go to hell. Dean's the best thing that has happened to the Dem party. Those assholes (some of whom, including the chimp himself have said the same things) got their panties in a bunch, and they have nothing to prove Dean wrong.

And just who is doing the fighting?

Dean is correct again, we can not win in Iraq.

Republicans exploit and kill American soldiers to increase defense contractor profits. Example: Halliburton.

When hell freezes over they'll go.

it's not going to change people's minds - hell as per the various polls a majority of American's feel Iraq was a mistake and we should leave. Fear mongering and name calling isn't going to change that.

Just remember this when the indictments come through -

I think they should have chosen a less flattering one personally. ;)

Why, that would be Republicans! And Bush! Call it retreat or whatever word you prefer, it's time to GO!

service records.

...what they said about the ad, but it has Barbara Boxer in it too. Personally, I think the clip of Kerry talking about breaking into homes in the middle of the night and terrorizing the children, helps to show a wider audience what they've been lying about for weeks (the lie: Kerry calls American troops terrorists).

When do we start work on our commercial? I say we do one with their words. How about:

Idea 1) Video or sound clips (if available) of these war criminals praising war

or

Idea 2) Video of all the lies they told to get us into this war, and the video or sound clips of investigators who found none of those things.

of chicken-shit yellow bellied RW GOPigs with enlistment papers being waved in front of them. Not this shit "I do more good over here". or the shit "I'm needed for the culture war". No , unless you enlisted to go over there or honorably served in Viet Nam, Korea or WW2, shove your yellowshirt crap up your ass , freeper monkeys.

women and children are being killed, soldiers limbs are being blown off and republicans are handing americas money over to evil looking corporate ceos?

Because that's whats happening.

If the dems would tell it like it is, there wouldn't be a problem.