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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:25 PM
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Angry Bush official met with McKenna over Martin's climate comments
Edited on Fri Dec-09-05 01:25 PM by sonicx
OTTAWA (CP) - An angry Bush administration official demanded and received a meeting with Canadian ambassador Frank McKenna to complain about Prime Minister Paul Martin's attacks on U.S. environmental policy, U.S. sources say.

Martin accused the Americans earlier this week of being deaf to global opinion on the need to sign the Kyoto Protocol. The White House took Martin's rebuke as cheap electioneering during the campaign leading to the Jan. 23 vote, the sources said.

The meeting with McKenna took place earlier this week in Washington.

Martin was in Montreal on Friday to meet with another Bush foe - former U.S. president Bill Clinton.

Martin came to office promising a more mature relationship with the Americans but trade disputes and Canada's refusal to take part in the ballistic missile program have led to a deterioration in the relationship since Martin came to power in 2003.

http://www.macleans.ca/topstories/news/shownews.jsp?content=n120908A
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CatBoreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:31 PM
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1. Personally, I'd tell * to...
...stick it in his ear.

If he can't stand the heat (thanks to the greenhouse effect) he should get out of the damned kitchen.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 02:04 PM
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4. LOL, I suspect McKenna, in diplomatic language, did exactly that
Although I do not trust McKenna given he was a director in the Carlyle Group, he has pleasantly surprised me at time by speaking up quite bluntly to U.S. politicians on a number of issues.

I must say the double standard held by the bush admin regarding giving and receiving criticism does cause one to go "Whaaaaa??????", lol.
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CatBoreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 02:34 PM
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7. There's a reason why I'm not in the Diplomatic Corps...
...although my aunt (a former consulate to Kenya and Ethiopia) probably could have gotten me in. :rofl:

Clearly I didn't inherit any of her tact.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 03:57 PM
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12. your tact is gentleness itself, compared to John Bolton!
The only consolation is that even the Bushies won't be able to ruin a friendship that's been pretty much solid between our countries since the War of 1812 wrapped up.

I hope.


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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 04:02 PM
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13. No way can bush do that, imo!
He is but a bothersome, irritating blip on the radar of Canadian/U.S. relationships, and we know he doesn't speak for the majority of Americans even in his domestic policies never mind his infantile foreign policies, lol.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:35 PM
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2. This is exactly what they're doing right now.
U.S. officials are now unofficially acting like "lunatics", or "thugs". I just read in the India Times that a member of the U.S. delegation called the Indian Foreign minister a "retard" and "stupid" because he didn't go along with the American directive.

Folks, the U.S. has officially dispensed with diplomacy. Government officials are now going for the jugular.

Why would the U.S. do this? They must be desperate. No country voluntarily throws away friendships and alliances just for the hell of it. Because they've got FAR more to lose when they do that.

There is an article on Counter Punch that explains that the U.S. is losing consistently in its battles with different countries. The author can't figure out why the U.S. is now using the approach of "Going for Broke".

Maybe that last word has something to do with it.


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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:54 PM
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3. Canada to Bush: "You can't stand the truth."
Do they think being angry will make people fail to notice the air is getting so bad, the environment so tenuous, we may go the way of the Dodo bird. What total Babbits!
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 02:20 PM
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5. MacLeans magazine has become a mouthpiece for the Republican Party
I've pretty much written it off as a source of anything.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 04:51 PM
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14. Is it owned by the criminal Conrad Black? n/t
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 02:21 PM
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6. Well, it couldn't be electioneering if Bush was liked by his neighbors, eh
Blame Canada! Blame Canada!

;)
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 02:39 PM
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8. LOL, an election isn't need in order for bush to be disliked in
Canada except for the faux Cons like Harper who are wanting to be in bush's back pocket. Polls, long before this election, show we dislike bush intensely but, given we are in an election campaign, it certainly won't hurt Martin to talk tough right now.
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CatBoreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 02:44 PM
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9. Harper doesn't want to be in Bush's back pocket....
he wants to be Bush's front...ahem....

Bend over Canada and beg for the vaseline if Harper gets in.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 02:52 PM
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10. LOL, to be honest, that was my first thought as well but I was
too chicken to 'voice' it, virtually speaking. I must learn to be more forthright when it comes to Harper for sure!
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CatBoreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 03:27 PM
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11. Yet another reason...
...why I'm not in the diplomatic corps!
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 04:55 PM
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15. Cheap electioneering or not...
it's true. How dare they complain?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 04:58 PM
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16. Bush accusing someone else of "cheap electioneering"
That's rich.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 05:04 PM
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17. Chickenhawk diplomacy at it's finest.
Edited on Fri Dec-09-05 05:05 PM by bemildred
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:10 PM
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18. .
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:19 PM
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19. Everything to the Bush Cabal is cheap electioneering.
It's the one thing they know best.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:25 PM
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20. Ha Ha Ha
That must be worth a few points in the polls.

Just watch the other guys trying to duplicate some of this.

Just imagine. Canada couldn't gets anyone's interest in Mad Cow, Devils Lake nor softwood. But along comes an election and bang.
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