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Thom Little (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 06:27 PM Original message |
Oklahoma lawmaker to file bill requiring ultrasound before abortions |
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PDJane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. Excuse me. |
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Tess49 (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 06:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. First trimester ultrasounds are usually done transvaginally. |
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Caria (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 10:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
49. THAT will further traumatize rape victims |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 10:50 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Rep. Kevin Calvey, R-Del City =another repuke parasite |
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Tess49 (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. As someone who performs these exams, I know you are correct. |
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prog dude (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 04:09 PM Response to Reply #49 |
68. They Can Refuse It |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 06:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Are they going to show FALSE images? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 07:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. Oh, I think they do. How will people without medical insurance |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
4. There's a truly stupid bit of legislation |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm sure a rape victim |
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prog dude (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 12:25 AM Response to Reply #5 |
37. She Doesn't Have To Look |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 12:59 AM Response to Reply #37 |
44. You don't see the problem? |
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prog dude (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 03:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. The Government should pay for the Abortion, but not the Option? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 05:09 PM Response to Reply #60 |
76. Just curious, but are you opposed to abortion as a choice? |
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prog dude (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 05:18 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Similar to Hillary |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 05:28 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. Somehow I doubt that... |
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prog dude (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 05:42 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Women Are Just Too Stupid to be Trusted with Choice, Right? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 05:50 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Huh? Where did I ever say that?? |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 07:59 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. "A common procedure for their own good"? |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 08:09 PM Response to Reply #60 |
96. Righhhhht. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-18-05 01:33 PM Response to Reply #37 |
100. They have the choice already |
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strangemedicine (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-18-05 05:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
107. Don't see a problem? |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. So what....it goes to show how little he knows. |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 08:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
30. Don't know where you got that info |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 09:28 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Obviously, it isn't true. If it was, it would be pretty stupid |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-18-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
101. Like always Lizzy..... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-18-05 06:13 PM Response to Reply #101 |
109. You don't see an idiocy of proposing the bill requiring |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-18-05 06:44 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. You don't get it.... |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-18-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #30 |
99. What year was that? |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 02:04 AM Response to Reply #6 |
46. No, ultrasounds are not always done before abortions. |
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RayOfHope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 04:13 PM Response to Reply #46 |
69. It's done in Missouri. n/t |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-18-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #46 |
102. Then, they are not certified.... |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
7. . |
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jackpan1260 (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
8. What the hell is the argument FOR this stupid bill? |
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bammertheblue (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 07:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. I think |
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jackpan1260 (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 07:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Lame. |
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bammertheblue (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 08:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Yeah |
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jackpan1260 (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 08:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Pretty soon they'll want Uncle Sam to pass out bibles, |
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bammertheblue (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 08:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. One time |
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prog dude (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 12:30 AM Response to Reply #8 |
39. The Argument is Choice |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 12:56 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Fear? |
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catzies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 11:44 AM Response to Reply #39 |
54. It's not typical and it's not common and it's not about giving access |
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prog dude (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 04:00 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. Not Common? |
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prof_science (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 04:18 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. BS |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 04:20 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Deleted message |
prof_science (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 04:22 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. sorry |
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prog dude (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 04:26 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. I Appreciate That |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 05:07 PM Response to Reply #65 |
75. Not common... |
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prog dude (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 05:16 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. So You'd Deny Her Access If She Had a Choice? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 05:30 PM Response to Reply #78 |
87. Could you please address what I said in my post... |
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prog dude (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 05:36 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Well Since Nobody Is Addressing the Access Question |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 05:56 PM Response to Reply #88 |
94. It's been answered many times already...you just don't like the answer... |
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phylny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 05:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
77. Why should it happen? Why is it your business? |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
9. Why not just force the woman to stick her hand up there |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 12:29 AM Response to Reply #9 |
38. They want to show the baby TO her instead of |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
10. Well, at least it's truthful...the nice language is out the window now |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
11. Let's have him pay for them... |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
12. They can't sell this as anything but anti-abortion |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
14. This man is sick. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 07:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I think it could be more simple. He just wants people not be able to |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 07:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. ah. Makes total sense, they can't afford an ultrasound so |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
16. When I read the title I thought "I bet this lawmaker is a man" |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
17. This goes hand in hand with the fundies buying up ultra-sound |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 07:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. good point. |
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dogfacedboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
18. Don't ya love how it's always MEN making women's health decisions? n/t |
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bammertheblue (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 07:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. No shit |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
19. Why not let's provide all females in the country with an atomic |
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The Wielding Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-18-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
103. Great post! What a bunch of pushy busybodies! Get out of our bodies! |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
28. The Woman Intimidation Act. |
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prog dude (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 03:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
62. It's a CHOICE |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 05:29 PM Response to Reply #62 |
86. The big difference is |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
29. The article isn't clear |
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DaveColorado (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 09:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. "it's ridiculous and most likely unconsitutional." |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 09:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. That's What I Thought - Perform Or Offer |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 12:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
56. well, it's clearly not about the patient's rights |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
34. Only abortion clinics? |
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WildClarySage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
35. Funny... but ultrasounds, while generally thought to be safe |
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prog dude (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 12:23 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Choice |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 12:57 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. But why should the clinic be required to provide an ultrasound? |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 12:57 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Why do we need a law to give women a choice they already have? |
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Robeson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 03:56 PM Response to Reply #42 |
64. Bingo. It's another attempt at intimidation.... |
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area51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 11:04 AM Response to Reply #35 |
52. "If this guy really wants to show his love for fetuses..." |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
43. these assholes need to find something important to do then stick their |
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anitar1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 01:54 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. They obviously think they are the crotch owners. n/t |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 03:18 AM Response to Original message |
47. How about housing, power and food!!! |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 03:47 AM Response to Original message |
48. next they'll demand |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
50. My son looked like a centipede around 7 weeks of gestation |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
53. So what's next? |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
55. Who pays for this? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
57. I am pro life and I think this bill is stupid |
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prog dude (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 03:31 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. So You're Against Choice |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. I am |
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prog dude (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 04:01 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. I Meant the CHOICE of an Ultrasound |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 05:49 PM Response to Reply #66 |
92. My take is that the woman would have to get one |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-18-05 06:11 PM Response to Reply #92 |
108. I imagine they are playing around with words. |
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phylny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 05:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
80. I feel that no one gets to interfere in a private |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-18-05 02:28 PM Response to Reply #61 |
104. I am just curious about your comment... |
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OKthatsIT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
63. This is disgusting |
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prog dude (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 04:03 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. What, Providing Women an Option? |
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phylny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 05:21 PM Response to Reply #67 |
82. What's disgusting is you or me or anyone else having a say about |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 08:15 PM Response to Reply #67 |
98. It is a diagnostic tool, not a "choice". |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
74. If Republicans had all that reverence for life they would live differently |
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Sivafae (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
81. This has to be a stepping stone law |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
83. Even worse |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-18-05 02:34 PM Response to Reply #83 |
105. 24 hours means the women will have to take time off work two days also |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
84. These people never quit |
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yorkiemommie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
89. does he have stock in an ultrasound machine company? |
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prog dude (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 05:43 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Yeah, Only the Rich Should Have Access to Healthcare Options |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-17-05 08:13 PM Response to Reply #91 |
97. It's because the poor can't afford it. |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-18-05 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
106. Has Calvey proposed legislation for those planning other med. procedures? |
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