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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 12:11 AM
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Revealed: MI5 ruled London bombers were not a threat
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article333649.ece

Revealed: MI5 ruled London bombers were not a threat
By Jason Bennetto, Crime Correspondent
Published: 17 December 2005
Two of the four suicide bombers who killed 52 people in the July 7 attacks were scrutinised by MI5 last year but were not considered to be a threat, The Independent has learnt.

Shahzad Tanweer, 22, who detonated a rucksack bomb on the Tube train at Aldgate, is believed to have been indirectly linked to an alleged plot to build a bomb in 2004. It has already been established that the suspected mastermind, Mohammad Sidique Khan, 30, had been known to security services.

The disclosure that a second of the four bombers had come to the attention of MI5 is likely to increase pressure for a public inquiry into the London attacks and any failures in intelligence. Charles Clarke, the Home Secretary, is resisting setting up a wide-ranging independent inquiry, instead opting for a more limited "narrative" led by a civil servant. The Independent has also established that there are so many new terrorist suspects coming to the attention of the security agencies and Scotland Yard's anti-terrorist branch that there are not enough officers to investigate them all.

Tanweer, who killed eight people including himself, is believed to have been the subject of a routine assessment by MI5. No further action was taken after it was decided that he was on the periphery and that there were far more significant suspects to investigate. The decision by MI5 to disregard two of the men who would later become suicide bombers was based on the assessment that they were not on the intelligence "radar" and only had an indirect link - via an associate of the gang under investigation - to the main targets.

But the disclosure highlights the police and security services' lack of intelligence on a growing number of British-born Muslims who have become radicalised while in the UK, with others learning terrorist tactics in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and north Africa.

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sounds familiar like 911's Intel
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 12:29 AM
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1. So even the most astute intelligence is not fail-proof.
Or we're creating more crafty insurgents... Or intelligence isn't living up to their name.
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 02:35 AM
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2. I rather think they're saying this in order to get even more policemen
("there are so many new terrorist suspects coming to the attention of the security agencies and Scotland Yard's anti-terrorist branch that there are not enough officers to investigate them all.") AND in order to change the laws, so they can imprison people even BEFORE they have done anything wrong, for instance. "Clarke, the Home Secretary, is resisting setting up a wide-ranging independent inquiry" - maybe because M15 isn't really at fault - ? -, don't believe ANYTHING an official says these days...

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 05:31 PM
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3. this is so like the FBI reort when they warned about Atta
but it was shoveled to the back...
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 05:50 PM
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4. Don't know much about 7-7
(compared to 9-11) but there does seem to be things that don't add up. I wouldn't be surprised that the more that is uncovered the more there's an element of LIHOP.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 05:52 PM
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5. noone could have imagined anyone bombing a train
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