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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:08 PM
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Poll: Bush's Approval Ratings Climb (47% ABC/WP)
Edited on Mon Dec-19-05 07:09 PM by RamboLiberal
http://abcnews.go.com/International/PollVault/story?id=1421748

The recent elections in Iraq and an improved economic outlook at home have shifted public support in the president's direction, lifting him from career lows in his job performance and personal ratings alike.

The president still faces significant challenges, including majority disapproval of his overall performance, substantial skepticism about the war and roughly 50-50 ratings on his personal honesty and his handling of ethics. Still, each has moved his way.

Overall, 47 percent of Americans in this ABC News/Washington Post poll now approve of George W. Bush's work in office; 52 percent disapprove. While hardly robust, that is up from a career low 39-60 percent in early November to its best in nearly six months.

The president's recent speechmaking on Iraq may have helped him. But public opinion tends to move on the basis of facts on the ground rather than political pronouncements, and the most striking change in this poll is linked to last week's successful elections in Iraq.

<snip>

Even with his gains, the president faces considerable skepticism. Despite his recent speeches, culminating in Sunday night's national address, 60 percent of Americans say he has not done enough to explain the reasons the United States is in Iraq and 59 percent think the administration does not have a clear plan for handling the situation there. (This poll was conducted Thursday through Sunday.) Views on the lack of a clear plan have been steady since spring 2004; what helps the president politically is that even more — 74 percent — think the Democrats in Congress don't have a clear plan for Iraq, either.



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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:11 PM
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1. Heck even Fox News has it at 42%
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:21 PM
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44. Great point!! Bush spys on everyone and his polls go up? go figure!!
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 06:24 PM
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48. Its a post speach bounce. It'll last maybe a week.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 03:58 AM
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54. of course bush got high ratings! and this is why....
the poll was conducted by tns of horsham pa.

here's another poll they did on the vice presidential debate:

"ABC http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20041006_499.html
NOTE: ABC doesn't have an online poll. Instead, they posted results of a "survey was conducted by telephone Tuesday night among a random-sample panel of 509 registered voters who watched the presidential debate. The results have a 4.5-point error margin. Sampling, data collection and tabulation were done by TNS of Horsham, Pa." But the sample was skewed: 38% were Republicans, 31% Democrats, the rest "independents". Here are the results anyhow, FYI:
Who Won? (Among Debate Viewers)
Cheney 43%
Edwards 35
Tie 19"

that night msnbc reported 33% thought cheney won and 67$ thought edwards won. fox reported cheney 46% and edwards 52%, atlanta journal cheney 42% & edwards 48%
http://www.newshounds.us/2004/10/06/postvp_debate_polls.php
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:34 AM
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55. oops.
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 04:35 AM by Tiggeroshii
Wrong place for the post.

Sorry
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:18 PM
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2. More lies, imo
Not one person I know, including family members who voted for him twice, will ever forget Hurricane Katrina and his lack of concern for US citizens dying on television before the eyes of the world while he strummed a guitar and ate birthday cake. Seems to me the paid for press has been told to make his poll numbers look better.

Sorry to be so cynical, but I prefer to go by the real world, and the people I talk to. The press has ZERO credibility anymore. With paid for reporters, and the recent revelations about controlled stories released to the press, Judith Miller, the NYT sitting on stories, Woodward, at least six 'journalists' identified as having been paid to promote this administration's agenda, I have no interest in what the MSM has to say, or in their polls which are most likely fixed.

In the real world, it's hard to find anyone who'll even admit to voting for him anymore ~ in reality, I think his poll numbers are probably in the low 30s. Just my opinion, of course, but based on people I talk to every day.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:25 PM
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20. I buy it.
Many people only have cursory knowledge of Bush or the world. They shouldn't be blamed for that. That's a failing of our weakened education system and a corporate-owned news media. As a result, many people could potentially be swayed more so than if they were highly informed about the world around them.
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jackbourassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:02 PM
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21. I don't buy it
He's not at 47%. Maybe 40 to 42%. Not 47%.

I agree his numbers went up a bit, now that his "base" of retards is coming back to him...but not 47%.

Even Gallup has him at 41% (out today).

ABC/Washington Post always polls Bush higher. I don't know why, but it's true.

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 12:19 AM
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33. I think subtle adjustments to the sample being contacted are responsible
That, and the post-poll weighting that is often done.
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degreesofgray Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 11:35 PM
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31. I don't know why
but I am constantly amazed and saddened at the appalling ignorance of so many otherwise intelligent people when it comes to current affairs and politics. But, if I think about how much I'd know if I limited my news gathering to network and local TV news, a few articles in the daily newspaper, and the occasional "news talk" shouting show, I can see how that can happen.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:20 PM
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3. liars.
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:32 PM
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4. Why Does It Matter?
Nobody in office cares what the American people think. Why should we?

Democracy in America has become a cruel hoax, another cozy bedtime story that leaves us all snuggled in our beds.

Poll this, Poll that.

The American people have as much as stated that they value "safety" over liberty, "victory" over justice.

Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dumber.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 12:00 AM
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32. yep I agree completely. I listened to those mothers of soldiers
killed in iraq, and most of them were spouting the bush line. I'm afraid that most of america is dumb and dumber.
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xyboymil Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:33 PM
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5. Remember, this poll was done BEFORE Spygate was broken....
so likely, his poll numbers will tank again after more comes out about this latest scandal.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:26 PM
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23. This is an important point
Poll data coming out just now reflects sentiments of around a week or so ago. Just wait'll the Snoopgate stuff his, I wouldn't be surprised to see the numbers sink below 30%.

And please, to all the people calling out "liar!", "BS!", etc...please stop. If you cheer the numbers when Chimpy is tanking, it is highly hypocritical to toss around such accusations when the numbers report something that you don't like.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:35 PM
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6. ABC/WP Poll??? I Do NOT believe this for one second!
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:37 PM
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7. Even CNN/Gallop has him @ only 41
Edited on Mon Dec-19-05 07:39 PM by emulatorloo
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/19/bush.poll/index.html

<snip>

CNN -- President Bush's approval ratings do not appear to have changed significantly, despite a number of recent speeches he's given to shore up public support for the war in Iraq and its historic elections on Thursday.

A CNN/USA Today Gallup poll conducted over the weekend found his approval rating stood at 41 percent, while more than half, or 56 percent, disapprove of how the president is handling his job. A majority, or 52 percent, say it was a mistake to send troops to Iraq, and 61 percent say they disapprove of how he is handling Iraq specifically. The margin of error was plus or minus 3 percentage points.

<snip>
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bushcrab Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:15 PM
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22. ABC....Asskissers for Bush &Cheney
A bump to 47%??? Give me a fucking break. They must've "owed" the Administration a favor to air this.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:38 PM
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8. Why not 100%
:rofl: Dont tell me with all this intelligent Americans got more stupid.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:40 PM
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9. But then again
they really need to spin this cause failuare means impeachment.
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:40 PM
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10. Bull shit
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:43 PM
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11. Only 1% undecided? LOL. Impossible.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:44 PM
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12. I see WaPo and all legitimacy goes out the window. n/t
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Hyernel Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:44 PM
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13. Do Americans forgive lying traitors?
Or is the constant drone of rightwing PR just too much to see thru.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:47 PM
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14. margin of error 30% ????
Yeah, right.

This poll definitely is cooked :eyes:
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:52 PM
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15. What???
Methodology

This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone Dec. 15-18, 2005 among a random national sample of 1,003 adults. The results have a three-point error margin. Fieldwork by TNS of Horsham, Pa.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:05 PM
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18. There's the trick...!
This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone Dec. 15-18


In other words, Thursday through Sunday.

The CNN poll showing little or no improvement was taken Saturday and Sunday.

Thursday was when we were being inundated with footage of joyous Iraqis holding up their purple fingers. Friday was before most people had heard of Spygate. By the weekend, the Iraq elections were old news and people were starting to hear about the domestic spying.

I'd be curious to see the variance over those four days. I wouldn't at all be surprised to see Bush's ratings going steadily downhill over that period.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:58 PM
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16. US Pravda Campaign Effective For Bush
That's what it should say. They've been blowing this smoke for a couple weeks now, it had to have an affect sooner or later.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:02 PM
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17. LOL! Press the button pull the chain out comes the little
brown choo choo train.

button = junior's bellybutton

chain = junior's dick

little brown train = junior stinking feces
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 11:30 PM
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30. Oh YUCK!!! I need to go wash my hands now. That's disgusting, and
there's no way I'd get near that button, much less yank that chain!!! :puke:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:16 PM
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19. American Research Group: George W. Bush's Poll Numbers Fail to Rebound
This is the subject line of LBN right above this item.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:57 PM
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24. Then what of this from USA Today?
Poll: Bush fails to sway public on Iraq
By Susan Page, USA TODAY
The series of speeches President Bush delivered during the past three weeks defending the invasion of Iraq failed to buy patience for the war or convince more Americans that the conflict is part of a broader campaign against terrorism, according to a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll taken over the weekend. (Related: Poll results)

The interviews with 1,003 adults nationwide were conducted Friday through Sunday, before Bush delivered an address to the nation Sunday and held a nationally televised news conference Monday. Those events may affect the public's perceptions of him and the war.


http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-12-19-poll_x.htm
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 06:23 AM
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36. Zidzi, that Gallup poll, which usually overestimates brush's approval,
clearly shows a continued decline. As of 8 Dec 2005, Brush went from 43% approval to 42, to 41, to....

If he has an approval above 20%, after American citizens have digested the fact that he illegally spied on US citizens without court orders, I'll be surprised.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 10:01 PM
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25. "bush's poll numbers desperately scrape and crawl their way upward."
There. That's more like it.
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Charles19 Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 10:18 PM
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26. It is a sorry state of affairs when the media covers
the poll's instead of covering the nonsense that is being caused by this administration and calling them for it. Shame on them, shame on them.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 10:26 PM
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27. ABC's nose is growing ....rapidly.
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Peachhead22 Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 11:02 PM
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28. Three things
First of all: I don't buy it. A week ago it was 40% or below. That sharp of a rise in a time when the only major happenings were some speeches and the Iraqi election just doesn't make sense. I have a hard time believing that many American's were that tuned in to the Iraqi elections.

Second of all: Even if the number is accurate, what goes up must come down. Especially when it goes up that sharply. It's very likely to come down just as sharply. Similar to the principle of a stock bubble. There's no fundamental reason to maintain the higher number. Millions of American didn't just suddenly and permanently change their entire opinions of * on the basis of a few speeches, or one good day in Iraq.

Thirdly, and this is the point I like the most: It's gonna be sweet when the statistical anomalies and this weekend's Spygate combine to drive his numbers right back down. Likely just as quickly as they rose. A large dip in his numbers right now, during the current Spygate feeding frenzy in the press, is going to be a far bigger story than this supposed rise in his numbers. Talk about a soul crusher for Freepers. :)

<A dozen generic news anchors: "In the news today, President Bush's approval numbers dropped 10 points in one week.">
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 08:02 AM
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37. MAJOR poll this is a MAJOR poll , it's MAJOR
Vargas on ABC WNT last night must have said MAJOR three times in about 10 seconds.

It's MAJOR!!!
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goose4739 Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:07 PM
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42. She's such a whore
The ABC coverage of the Iraq "elections" was right out of the Pravda playbook. She and Bob Woodruff were absolutely jubilant, while I kept thinking, "Gee. We don't have free elections in America!"

Fuckers.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 11:12 PM
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29. Sounds like an outlier, maybe a liar
Good debunking done in this thread.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 02:03 AM
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34. yawn, show us a poll that was taken AFTER tuesdays press bit
then try and claim his numbers are climbing.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 02:45 AM
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35. That's not a poll...
it's a plot.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 08:41 AM
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38. I refuse to believe it
47%? No f*cking way.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 09:13 AM
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39. possibly true but now that elections over in Iraq, battles wage on and *
won't have those ratings for long.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 09:22 AM
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40. If is is true, Americans are dummer than I thought
A couple of poorly written speeches delieverd by a man who can barely read and they are supporting him again?

1. I don't believe the polls
2. The propaganda machine has been busy all week creating the illusion of progress
3. Those who support Bush would give away their constitutional rights to him while he takes their jobs and savings and retirement supporting him no matter what

4. We are in Alice in Wonderland where up is down and right is wrong and the bad guys wear the white hats.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:16 PM
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43. Never underestimate the stupidity of the people.
Motto of fascists everywhere throughout history.

The USA is fucked. We are too stupid to learn from history, so we will have to live through more tragedies and learn lessons the Europeans have already learned. Too bad we are too stupid to learn from other peoples' mistakes. We will have to make the mistakes ourselves to learn. Bu$h and the corporate cabal are publicly robbing our treasury but somewhere around 40% approve.

Prepare for bad times ahead. :(
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 12:17 PM
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41. Another paid for story no doubt...
His poll rating here is somewhere between a snake's underbelly and cow shit on a boot heel.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:38 PM
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45. Why do I not believe ONEof these polls? The MSM is"selling" the Prez
sooooo hard the last two weeks.

The recent Zogby poll which showed him at about 30-some percent is, I believe, the most accurate.

Besides, NONE of the new Shrub speeches contain anything new.

And now, the "Spying on America" thing can NOT "sit well" with Mid-America.

Sorry, the 40-ish numbers are "attractive," but I do NOT believe they exist anymore than Santa Clause.
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:53 PM
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46. Who did they poll?
The employees of ABC news, how do we know who they polled?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:03 PM
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47. Bullshit!
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 06:38 PM
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49. 47% of the people like to get screwed even if it's done by Bush
How much is it costing to get the polls to climb for this little man? :+ :thumbsdown:
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shawn703 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:57 PM
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50. Bush Approval Rating Soars to 47%
n/t
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:04 PM
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51. approx 10% hare-brained idiots duped by bush's Iraq speeches
who are these people?
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PatriotGames Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:16 PM
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52. That rating still sucks, IMO.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:04 AM
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53. ABC's poll was the second
to come out this week. CNN/Gallup had Bush at 41%....So i guess all the talking heads are using the ABC poll since it is higher and they can all say bush is rebounding...... But if the polls are honest and the next one taken next week bush will be back around 40% because of this illegal wire-tapping.... Bush is about three shakes away from being impeached...and I know some will say I am only dreaming, but damn it is nice to dream....since John Lewis called for the impeachment of bush, and this story continues, look for one maybe two republicans to call for bush's impeachment.....
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:36 AM
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56. He's certainly bouncing, but since most other polls still have him at
around 42, it's likely this won't be for very long. IF you average them all out, I'd say he has roughly around a 45% approval. I think that we're going to see some things really turning for the worst for him in the near future as the Abramoff and leak scandals unravel. Also, the man was caught spying on us illegally and Arlen Specter has proven to be rather pissed about it. If things stay that way, we may be seeing the presient testifying before congress before too far into the new year.


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