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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 12:05 PM
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Democrats to woo voters on (minimum) wage issue
Democrats to woo voters on wage issue
Frozen minimum pay seen as spur

By Rick Klein, Globe Staff | December 25, 2005

WASHINGTON -- New Year's Day will bring the ninth straight year in which the federal minimum wage has remained frozen at $5.15 an hour, marking the second-longest period that the nation has had a stagnant minimum wage since the standard was established in 1938.

Against that backdrop, Democrats are preparing ballot initiatives in states across the country to boost turnout of Democratic-leaning voters in 2006. Labor, religious, and community groups have launched efforts to place minimum-wage initiatives on ballots in Ohio, Michigan, Arizona, Colorado, Nevada, Arkansas, and Montana next fall.

Democrats say the minimum wage could be for them what the gay-marriage referendums were in key states for Republicans last year -- an easily understood issue that galvanizes their supporters to show up on Election Day.

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Of the seven states that appear most likely to have a minimum wage increase on the ballot, five were decided by fewer than 10 percentage points in last year's presidential election, and all but Michigan supported President Bush. Republican senators in three of the states -- Ohio, Arizona, and Montana -- are high on Democrats' target lists, as they seek to pick up seats in Congress in the 2006 midterm elections.

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 12:23 PM
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1. while a decent minimum wage is important
Edited on Sun Dec-25-05 12:23 PM by ixion
I guess I feel there are some WAY MORE PRESSING issues that the dems should be talking about.

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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 12:42 PM
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4. This issue IS one that is very pressing to a vast number of Americans.
Kitchen table issues, and the ability to put something on that kitchen table, are what the Democrats need to get back into. I'm drawn to my party by the Populist side of it--worker's issues, health issues, etc. The way some Dems have gone "corporate", as most Republicans have, is the area of the party I'm critical of.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 01:16 PM
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7. I totally agree!! The War for Oil and Health care. nt
:bounce:
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:53 PM
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33. How about Katrina....
and what is going to happen when storms hit the New Orleans area again. what is * doing to prepare?
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 03:19 PM
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9. Addressing the overwhelming polarization of wealth in US is MOST IMPORTANT
ISSUE.

Everything wrong with America today flows down from the amazing polarization of all kinds of power, and this is an excellent tool for correcting the imbalance.

It also shows people what the Democrats' values are.

Also, it was huge polarizations of power that caused the depression, which was one of the most destabilizing events other than revolutons ever to happen to a country on this planet since the US civil war. If not for FDR, this would be a very different country and world. and it was polarization of wealth and power, as I said, that preceded that disaster.
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 04:00 PM
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13. i agree with you 100%
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:01 PM
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28. gracias
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 10:53 PM
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22. As do I
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:01 PM
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29. de nada
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 03:14 AM
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23. Yupper.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:02 PM
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30. :)
Edited on Tue Dec-27-05 12:37 PM by 1932
I should make a clear something to which I alluded in that post: I don't know if we have leaders with the strenght and conviction FDR had, so I don't think we should tempt fate by letting another depression happen and then hope that someone like FDR comes along and saves us.

It would be better to address the polarization of power today so that we don't have a depression tomorrow.
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 03:56 PM
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11. obviously you aren't living on minimum wage.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 05:42 PM
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14. All politics is local
as Tip O'Neill said. And wages are one thing that effects a majority of folk. I think it is pretty sad when I realize that I now work for less money (when adjusted for inflation) than I made working minimum wage in college (and that was when there was a different minimum for men and women!). The high cost of heating/petrol is also a factor in the living standards of Americans, and one most will respond to. Add to that outsourcing jobs, giving tax cuts and benefits to the rich and the corporations, and you have enough information to get a majority of people informed-and mad-about what is going on.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 08:59 AM
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26. I would say this is THE most pressing issue
This is literally criminal. The minimum wage should be at least double that. The quality of the lives of Americans is the number one most pressing issue, and wages and health care at the foundations of it.
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missouri dem 2 Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 12:27 PM
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2. Love the headline
"Demcrats woo voters on minumum wage" Rather than, Democrats stand up for the working class.

More corporate spin.
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Saint Stephen Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 01:10 PM
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6. Do you really think the Dems care about the working class?
Or are they just trying to get votes? They rarely follow through on any promises they make and sincerity is something they've lost in the past two decades. It's time for liberals to stand up and act like liberals, even after the election is over.

If we're going to have a minimum wage, then make it worthwhile ($13/hr or more) so that it truly becomes a living wage. Otherwise, get rid of it. There are arguments for both options, but raising it a buck or two is meaningless.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:56 AM
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21. Most Dems do...
...just damned few of them who have run the corporate gauntlet to get in office.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 03:16 AM
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24. That makes no sense at all. Why get rid of it? What does that do?
And it's not meaningless if that extra buck or two means whether or not your kid gets to go to the dentist this month, or whether you can amybe cut back on the hours of your second or third job.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 03:37 AM
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25. Is meaningless? I generally agree.
Edited on Tue Dec-27-05 03:44 AM by SimpleTrend
Get rid of it? Seems like that cure might might kill the truly poor.

$13.00 per hour is a step in the right direction, but I think somewhere near $21.00 gives parity to HS students for the hours they spent in a classroom seat versus the professional middle class. I have never heard of one minimum wage proposal at anytime in my life that even begins to address the inequity based upon the relative time spent in education.

The very rich -- they need to have some serious limitations of their income generation schemes, which several posters above correctly pointed out cause the breakdown of many facets of society. Edited to add: compared to the obscenely rich, the professional "middle class" is today quite poor.
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 09:41 AM
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27. The "Middle Class" today is merely a group of poor people with credit. n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 12:28 PM
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3. A real pro-labor party would be calling for repeal of Taft-Hartley and
be pushing for a Living Wage.

The Living Wage Movement: Building Power in our Workplaces and Neighborhoods

In 1994, an effective alliance between labor (led by AFSCME) and religious leaders (BUILD) in Baltimore launched a successful campaign for a local law requiring city service contractors to pay a living wage. Since then, strong community, labor, and religious coalitions have fought for and won similar ordinances in cities such as St. Louis, Boston, Los Angeles, Tucson, San Jose, Portland, Milwaukee, Detroit, Minneapolis, and Oakland -- bringing the national living wage total to 122 ordinances. Today, more than 75 living wage campaigns are underway in cities, counties, states, and college campuses across the country. Taken collectively, these impressive instances of local grassroots organizing is now rightfully dubbed the national living wage movement, which syndicated columnist Robert Kuttner has described as "the most interesting (and underreported) grassroots enterprise to emerge since the civil rights movement … signaling a resurgence of local activism around pocketbook issues."

In short, living wage campaigns seek to pass local ordinances requiring private businesses that benefit from public money to pay their workers a living wage. Commonly, the ordinances cover employers who hold large city or county service contracts or receive substantial financial assistance from the city in the form of grants, loans, bond financing, tax abatements, or other economic development subsidies.

The concept behind any living wage campaign is simple: Our limited public dollars should not be subsidizing poverty-wage work. When subsidized employers are allowed to pay their workers less than a living wage, tax payers end up footing a double bill: the initial subsidy and then the food stamps, emergency medical, housing and other social services low wage workers may require to support themselves and their families even minimally. Public dollars should be leveraged for the public good -- reserved for those private sector employers who demonstrate a commitment to providing decent, family-supporting jobs in our local communities.

Many campaigns have defined the living wage as equivalent to the poverty line for a family of four, (currently $9.06 an hour), though ordinances that have passed range from $6.25 to $13.00 an hour, with some newer campaigns pushing for even higher wages.

Increasingly, living wage coalitions are proposing other community standards in addition to a wage requirement, such as health benefits, vacation days, community hiring goals, public disclosure, community advisory boards, environmental standards, and language that supports union organizing.

http://www.livingwagecampaign.org/index.php?id=2071


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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 01:05 PM
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5. this will be important in building a case against McCain.
He is anti-minimum wage man, voting against every minimum wage increase in his tenure besides one fake republican one.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 02:47 PM
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8. but, will the initiatives win against the voting machines?


Is HAVA spending millions to buy the next election coup?

Oh, let's just roll the dice and sees what happens ... certainly someone will have our backs in 2006. :sarcasm:


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and nothing to get hung about
Strawberry fields forever

Living is easy with eyes closed

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The Blue Knight Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 03:22 PM
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10. Nice to see that the Dems are learning.
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 03:59 PM
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12. they need to get it on the ballot in PA
that hopefully would supplant Santorum, although it's probably going to take an act of god to get him reelected at this point.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 05:54 PM
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15. Great! They should consider also pairing this w/ some sort of tax breaks
for small business owners who employ low-wage workers. (There could be some sort of cut-off based on number of employees or profits.) Then the issue would be unstoppable for the Dems. Small business owners often vote Republican. If they could see that the Dems have something to offer them as well, maybe that could be changed.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 12:04 AM
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16. Michigan Needs A Raise campaign launched
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 12:39 AM
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17. democrats need to get on the side of the US worker...
yes the Minimum Wage and Socialized Medicine need to be on the Platform ...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:03 AM
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18. Florida raised minimum wage
and voted for Bush. And even if it was primarily stolen, there was still an awful lot of people who said yes to a higher minimum wage and yes to Bush. We probably ought to figure that one out before we rely on this strategy alone.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 07:19 AM
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19. Good. I want to see pocketbook issues front and center.
Couple this with strong positions on outsourcing, national health insurance and coupling development of alternative energy with rebuilding our manufacturing base and good paying jobs for working people and we might have a program.
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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 10:59 AM
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20. Keep the Sabbath holy! Sunday off for everyone too. Fundies will love it!
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:22 PM
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31. Ooooooooh aaaaaah!!!LOL!!!....Try outsourcing first bozos!!!
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:30 PM
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32. We Could Still Lose
forgive my pessimism, but I can't forget the elections in Florida in 2002.
There were several very liberal initiatives on the ballot (class size, no smoking in restaurants, pre-K programs, protecting pregnant pigs <!>, etc) they all passed. And yet, we still elected all Republican officials to state wide offices and many to Congress.

So, If Democrats don't play this right, the minimum wage amendments will pass, but Republicans will get elected & do everything they can to override the will of the people.
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