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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:24 PM
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Biden Gets Jump Start On Campaigning ("...Cheney...lied...")
http://kdka.com/topstories/local_story_360165041.html

Dec 26, 2005 4:48 pm US/Eastern

Jon Delano
Reporting


(KDKA)...

“To tell you the truth, I'm looking to see whether or not I can generate support over the next year or so that makes it viable for me to seek the nomination for president,” Biden said...

“The President has one last window here -- to level with the American people, level with the American people,” Biden said.

Biden, a senior member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is outspoken about bad intelligence from the White House.

“Let me, so I am not misunderstood, use my terms, if I may,” Biden said. “We were misled and we were, in the case of Mr. Cheney, lied to.”

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:27 PM
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1. Biden has No chance for this nomination...
He voted for the Iraq War just like Kerry and was one of the LOUDEST cheerleaders for it...

He is pathetic...

Please Democratic Party PLEASE we don't need someone with tons of baggage on him...
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:30 PM
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2. We're Democrats. We carry the nation's baggage.
Edited on Mon Dec-26-05 05:30 PM by Atman
That's our symbol isn't it, the donkey? A pack animal? The Republicans skip through life, carefree and irresponsible, never a speck of guilt or remorse their own transgressions, or those of their party. Someone has to carry it all...it's us, the Democrats! And Biden is like the Mascot's Mascot.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:19 PM
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13. Say Rather Like the Elephants They Are,
Republicans trample everything in their way, turn rogue with frightening frequency, consume way too much for the American budget, make great terrifying war machines (with gaping vulnerabilities) and never forget a slight, even if it's only in their own minds.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:44 PM
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19. Chimps are good at skipping.
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cmdrzog Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:47 PM
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21. Don't forget they crap on the floor and
leave it for someone else to clean up.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 02:16 AM
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39. If Only That Were So
The Republicans skip through life, carefree and irresponsible


Would that it were so.

Instead, they trample all over everything like a herd of stampeding elephants.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:31 PM
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3. Biden has EVERY chance
as much as i do NOT like him (MBA Joe) he is articulate, MODERATE, and good looking. That is all the sheeple will care about.

he has EVERY chance and will give Hillary a run for her $$ (should she decide)

i'm not happy about it but realize what the sheeple are looking for.
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CarbonDate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:35 PM
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6. The people will be looking for a leader.
Very few Democrats fit the bill right now. Russ Feingold. Wesley Clark. Howard Dean. Al Gore. Al Sharpton.

The rest are enablers and/or finger-in-the-wind followers. Which is fine, not everybody needs to be a leader. But not everybody needs to be President, either. John Kerry was also articulate, moderate, and good-enough looking (better-looking than monkey-face Bush, anyway), but that wasn't good enough. People couldn't discern where he stood. People don't necessarily want a stubborn mule like Bush, but they do want a guy with principles. Clinton and Biden don't fit the bill.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:38 PM
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8. you forget the media
they will CRUCIFY Feingold (anti-'Murican, 'fringe-left', etc..etc..etc..)

look what they did (and are doing) to Dean. Biden is already a media darling. i hate it as much as you but look at the facts. tell you what. bookmark this thread and when the time comes, go back to it and see if i'm right.

watch for it.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:47 PM
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20. The media is getting less Press, now.,
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:21 PM
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14. Howard! Howard! Howard! and Russ! Russ! Russ!
Who the hell would want to march to a cadence of Biden?
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:36 PM
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7. You forgot:
Edited on Mon Dec-26-05 05:46 PM by Atman
He's a spineless whore who is totally connected to the party machinery and corporate cash. He puts his hand out, does the corporations' bidding, then gives an impassioned performance on behalf of the little guy at the first on-camera moment. Joe Biden talks big, but totally sways with the wind.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:39 PM
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9. yup. that is why the media will give him a pass
they like that shit.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 09:48 PM
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33. I guess that means an intricate Kabuki dance kind of campaign


:puke:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:26 PM
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16. he sold us out to the credit card companies. when your bills come
every month, know that your struggle is harder because of him. the fucker.
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CarbonDate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:31 PM
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4. If Biden wants to follow Feingold's lead....
...then good. He's welcome to it.

But let's not pretend that he's in any way, shape, or form leading. He's following. In 2002 he followed Bush, and if he wants to follow Feingold now, that's great. But he's not leading.
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:33 PM
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5. No appeasement with repukes-Joe "Gladstone" Biden
Sorry Corporate Joe this grass root says NO WAY Joe...Retire Joe. I'm sure you'll have a much better retirement then the majority of Americans.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:40 PM
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10. I'm So Unimpressed With His Letter to Dick
I don't blame Joe for wanting to cover his ass.

If he felt so strongly that the spying was wrong enough to need a CYA note, it's a shame he didn't have the balls to either fight against the program or resign and make a vague stink about the * administration trampling on the constitution.

I want someone with a little more spine for my candidate.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 09:11 PM
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31. Not totally fair - Biden had a lot to do with the 70s law violated
by the spying. He is low on my list of favorites - I've seen him on Sunday shows, giving speeches on C-SPAN and on CSPAN2 Senate coverage. He is better on the talk shows than in the speeches which meander endlessly (with later points contradicing earlier ones), his "amusing" stories to illustrate points in the Senate drive me nuts. In the SFRC, where you can see him with Kerry, Feingold, Boxer and Obama - although he's the ranking member - he is almost never the most impressive. He was the most egotist of the Kerry surrogates last year.
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:00 PM
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11. Just say no... to Joe
Biden. Lieberman etc etc........
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Nomen Tuum Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:08 PM
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12. Go back to MBNA, Joe Biden.
If Joe Biden was any kind of a man, he would push for repeal of the so-called bankruptcy reform law.

But he's not.

The best Thing Biden can do is step down from the Senate and take his Pink Tutu with him.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:25 PM
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15. won't get it from me. I want someone CONSISTENT! Like Mr. Conyers.
His opinions don't change with his jacket.
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TiredOfLies Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:33 PM
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17. tooo little tooo late
They were not misled and knew it, they just didn't have the guts to speak up, politics a usual.. If 50 million Americans and another 100 million people around the world knew that Iraq was Bushs personal war, then we have the dumbest people in the world right here in our Senete and congress
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:41 PM
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18. Biden? No way. He's as appealing as a spike to the forehead. Most
people will know him from the ass kissing he does with the credit card industry (as has been pointed out here). Older women like me will remember what a pig he was during the Anita Hill fiasco.

He is NOT charismatic. He has not done one single thing to show that he's worthy to represent the democrats (or anyone for that matter) in the presidential election. And as for me (and truthfully a couple of other people that I know) he seems a little reptilian.

Someone here was huffing and puffing earlier about how everybody better support the dem candidate or they can kiss her/his ass. Well, she/he better assume the position now if Biden is the candidate (although I doubt that many of us will feel obliged to take her up on her/his demand. I know that I won't.)
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 07:17 PM
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23. Well, who would you recommend?
Kucinich? Dean? Gitreal?
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 07:45 PM
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25. Clark. Hands down. No reservations. Without a doubt. Wesley Clark
.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 09:05 PM
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30. I second the Clark nomination!
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:58 PM
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36. Clark, absolutely. Biden has stolen some of Clark's views recently....
Edited on Mon Dec-26-05 11:58 PM by Gloria
the guy has plagiarism in his background that did him in before. You can bet it will be trotted out again.

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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:49 PM
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22. Are those Bidens words?
Or did he plagerise them too.
The guys a waste and unelectable for President.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 07:24 PM
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24. Biden talking about leveling with the American people is like
Brownie talking about disaster management.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 08:26 PM
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26. Oh **swoon** I just LOVE his looks, especially the slicked back hair.
Edited on Mon Dec-26-05 08:26 PM by JanMichael
Toss in his charisma and pro-Labor, Prograssive, mindset...:puke:
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 08:45 PM
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27. Biden-flavored tapioca pudding
Edited on Mon Dec-26-05 08:45 PM by MisterP
not popular with anybody, but everyone will tell us he is, like Hillary(TM) Custard
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 08:45 PM
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28. Why didn't he sign Kerry's Intelligence part II letter referencing DSM ?
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ecoalex Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 09:04 PM
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29. Biden is a DLC Dickhead
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Broward Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 09:47 PM
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32. So only Cheney lied?
Why can't he just come out and say it? Bush freakin lied too.
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RareLubbockDem Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 10:33 PM
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34. Hmm.... this makes me think
Perhaps Biden (and others) should talk about Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc... completely take the non-president out of it and in the process, show how weak, ineffective, and powereless he really is.

Does anyone else see this as a viable idea?
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:53 PM
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35. I was under the impression he was giving himself to the end of
THIS year-----so, he's giving himself an extension....??

He'll go nowhere.

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Hyernel Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:45 AM
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37. Sorry Joe...
But the credit card industry presents a clear and present danger to the American people. These predatory assholes need to be jerked back hard.

And as we all know...the Credit Card industry OWN you.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:49 AM
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38. Go Away Bidet
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