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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 03:50 PM
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FEMA dumps unused hurricane drinking water
Saturday, December 31, 2005 · Last updated 7:02 a.m. PT

FEMA dumps unused hurricane drinking water

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

DALLAS -- One million cans of drinking water donated for hurricane relief have been emptied and recycled because the water was never used at Texas and Louisiana hurricane shelters, the Federal Emergency Management Agency said.

FEMA hauled the 400,000 liters of water, or 18 truckloads, to a scrap metal business in the Dallas area last month. The water was dumped into a sewer and the cans sent for recycling.

FEMA spokesman Don Jacks said the cans were given by Coca-Cola and other donors in response to hurricanes Katrina and Rita. After the evacuees left, the shelters gave the unused water to FEMA, which stored them at its Fort Worth regional distribution center.

"We didn't need it anymore," Jacks said.
(snip/...)

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Donations_Dumped.html
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 03:53 PM
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1. Why not give it to poor folks? nt
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 03:55 PM
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2. What, did it spoil?................
I guess its no skin off of Coke's nose, but I'm pretty sure that water could have been put to good use somewhere else. Shit like this makes me livid.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 04:01 PM
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4. Properly canned water has a ten year shelf life.
At least that was the life on the Civil Defense rations they used to have in the basement of my grade school.
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 04:11 PM
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6. Dammit Ben............
There you go ruining my perfectly good indignation with rationality. I guess I'll have to anger myself with the notion that FEMA was trying to pawn some 9 1/2 year-old water off on hurricane victims! :silly:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 04:12 PM
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7. I know and it's not the first time..
these "einstein" types throw away something of value that could be put to good use.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 03:57 PM
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3. I really do hate all these fawning minions.
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 04:04 PM
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5. Great--and they supposedly are getting ready for the
'06 storms. Go FEMA!!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 04:13 PM
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9. Oooops!
Coulda used the water for that one. Is bush going to campaign in Arizona and California again?
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 04:17 PM
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11. Great sign for picketers in the dry states:
Edited on Sat Dec-31-05 04:17 PM by spindrifter
You're all wet Morans! Get a Brian!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 04:24 PM
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15. That would be
Hugh! :toast:
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 04:12 PM
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8. Schools, homeless shelters, hospitals...
It could have been given to so many people.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 04:16 PM
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10. STORE ice, DUMP canned drinking water. They don't need
Brownie to do a heckuva job.
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 04:19 PM
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12. Is the Ulterior Motive
to have the citizens say we don't need FEMA--we'll do it ourselves?
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 02:50 AM
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29. Yes.
I think you're onto it.
In fact, I'd bet my gold and silver crowns and fillings.

Jane Smiley's essay in Huffington Post concurs. She concludes that Bush,Brownie, et al are incompetant for a purpose.

Best essay I've read all year:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-smiley/a-tenstep-program_b_12451.html
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ThingsGottaChange Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 04:19 PM
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13. Wonder how much they got for recycling?
What is it, $.02/can? Bastards. I've never hated more than I have in the last 5 years. And I don't like it!!!
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 10:11 PM
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23. My half-assed attempt to follow the money...
There's a major recycling place in Dallas that sends their stuff to Ohio...



IMCO Recycling signs supply contract
Irving-based IMCO Recycling Inc. announced that it has signed a contract to supply more than 3 billion pounds of recycled aluminum over a 10-year period to Commonwealth Industries of Uhrichsville, Ohio. Financial details of the contract were not released. IMCO Recycling is the world's largest recycler of both aluminum and zinc.

www.bizjournals.com/dallas/ stories/1999/04/19/daily11.html - 71k


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Agreement covers approximately 220 employees at the Company's Uhrichsville, Ohio, Rolling Mill and its Bedford, Ohio, coil coating facility


Commonwealth Industries, Inc. in Louisville, Kentucky

http://coil.industrysearch.com/cgi-bin/portal/articles.plx?file=2736%2etxt

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Secat
Selected Partners
Imco RecyclingRecycling

-----------------------
Secat awarded $3.5M in federal energy contracts
Secat Inc., a research management and consulting business affiliated with the University of Kentucky, was awarded $3.5 million in contracts from the U.S. Department of Energy for research projects to reduce waste and lower energy and manufacturing costs in the production of aluminum products. Aluminum processors with Kentucky operations will match the government contract to bring total project funding to $7.1 million.

http://www.bizjournals.com/louisville/stories/2000/05/08/daily7.html

Probably blatant nepotism or back scratching involved in this. Why truck all this water to Dallas area fo recycling? :shrug:
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 04:21 PM
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14. I'd like to know who got the recycling money. . .
400,000 liters, 18 truckloads of cans, 12 ounce cans -- near as I can figure, that's more than 1.12 million cans. Even at a penny a piece that's a considerable sum. . .
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 04:26 PM
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16. They probably paid a contractor to dispose of it
as hazardous waste.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 05:12 PM
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17. Why does this NOT surprise me? Hey, now that THIS Hurricane season...
...is over, when would they ever need emergency water supplies again?

This is what happens when you let Republican MBA's run the U.S. Government, Money (or profits) are their TOP priority.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 05:16 PM
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18. Just stack on Bourbon Street
I'm sure it would have been put to good use. :evilgrin:
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 05:22 PM
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19. Think we could have "supported the troops"
in a DESERT war with that much water?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 05:43 PM
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20. If it doens't have chlorine in it - it can be very dangerous after a time.
Nothing to fight backteria. Not every bottle would go bad. But those that had any bacteria in them would have built colonies.

I don't see that they have any choice. Unless they wanted to gather the water, empty it, treat it, etc. It belongs in the sewar.
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 06:00 PM
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21. it was treated
All water used by food manufacturers is pasteurized before packaging. The water in those cans was as safe as the water that you are currently being urged to purchase and keep in your closet in case of emergency.

FEMA needs to be cut loose from Hopeless Security and restructured along the lines that Clinton had it on. FEMA should be stockpiling drinking water. Gad, we're in a drought in Texas, and the best thing the idiots at FEMA could think to do with the water was dump it down the drain. And there are still people on the Gulf Coast dependent on bottled water.

Everything Bush touches is shite.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 08:02 PM
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22. Heckuva job, Don Jacks
Magically turning potable water into useless sewage. I hear there's a Medal of Freedom coming somebody's waaayy....
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 10:34 PM
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24. These people never cease to amaze me. Disgusting.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 10:36 PM
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25. err, hey FEMA, there's going to be another hurricane season in a few months
just sayin'.

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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 11:32 PM
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26. Stupid, wasteful decision. If people become thirsty,
they will not mind the aftertaste. Idiots! :eyes:


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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 02:37 AM
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27. They could have frozen it
and sent it in trucks all over the United States, eventually storing it for a mere brazillion dollars.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 02:48 AM
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28. They didn't need it anymore.
The poor people STILL need it in NOLA. Un-fucking-believe-able.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 03:30 AM
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30. Pull this @ssholes UP!
info@ap.org
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 03:54 AM
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31. Shameful
and disgraceful! :mad:
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 03:58 AM
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32. unreal.....just when you think you can't be any more disgusted
by these assholes

they turn your stomach all over again
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