Bush: U.S. Should Welcome Competition

Bush: U.S. Should Welcome Competition
President Bush Urges Americans to Welcome and Not Fear Competition From India, Other Countries

By DEB RIECHMANN

HYDERABAD, India Mar 3, 2006 (AP)— President Bush urged Americans worried about a U.S. job drift to India and other countries to welcome, not fear, competition with this rapidly growing nation of 1 billion.

"The classic opportunity for our American farmers and entrepreneurs and small businesses to understand is there is a 300 million-person market of middle class citizens here in India," Bush said Friday during a discussion with young entrepreneurs at a business school here, "and that if we can make a product they want, that it becomes viable."
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The meeting with business leaders and an earlier tour around the dusty campus of an agricultural college were aimed at showcasing ways the United States and India can cooperate to spur innovation across industries.
India's exploding economy has created millions of jobs. India's outsourcing industry alone is expected to bring in $22 billion in revenue this fiscal year, much of that generated by U.S. companies.

"People do lose jobs as a result of globalization and it's painful for those who lose jobs," Bush acknowledged. "Globalization provides great opportunities."
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http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1682407&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

...bush actually supported OUR middle class? Of course, he actually supports neither country's middle class, just the ability to profit off other people's work and misery. What an asshat!

From someone who doesn't know or care what competition is,,,,

I have been beyond disgust for so long now.

:puke:

to competition. Someone was always there to help him land on his feet. Someone the rest of us don't have.

Who's going to trust him now? He had the same lack of experience when he sent those boys to go fight in Iraq. He didn't earn it in that case, and he's not earning it now.

It's not competition when Indian workers are always going to be cheaper. It's not competition when you're giving them the R&D future that we should be getting our hands on. It's not competition because we don't MAKE anything HERE anymore. It's not competition because they're already getting the jump on sciences such as nano- and Bio-technology while were trying to destroy science to believe a story and appease a bunch of toupeed wackjobs with crosses. It's not competition when you enable corporations to displace thousands of American workers either by offshoring or inshoring via tax breaks and loopholes. It's not competition when you have nothing on the near or far horizon to replace the outgoing jobs

What it IS, however, is the destruction of the American middle class, exactly as the well-monied Robber Baron Republican'ts want it. Offshoring helps NO one but the rich and drives down wages in every job they can ship over or bring here. "Everyone in their station and have the good sense to STAY there." A fearful, low paid, divided and powerless middle class is an OBEDIENT middle class.

What's even MORE depressing is that there are so-called progressives who buy into this asshole mantra of "a rising tide lifts all boats" and play the "xenophobia" card from the bottom of the deck when you disagree with this short-term pillaging. This isn't about hatred of anyone; Indians are simply embracing the opportunity given to them by our companies.

Unfortunately, know that it comes at a huge human price, one which is going to grow more than dissipate. Come to Northeast Ohio and the ghost-towns that litter it sometime and look at the cost. Go to any of the small towns in America that used to thrive, but now have boarded up weed-infested everything. Look at all the vacant office space in most mid-market cities and tell me how "progressive" it is that this dickhead presidope cares more about the events and markets of countries that start with an "I" than he does our own.

This needs to be a LTTE to every newspaper in the country! :thumbsup:

And you know those same "progressives" who buy into globalization are the same ones who take contributions from wealthy corporate backers. They want corporate money and our support. Until this changes, the middle class will continue to be exploited. We all know what Bush and his people really stand for: a feudal system with serfs (us, the lower classes, the wage EARNERS) and nobles (them, the wealthy business class, the investment class).

:toast:

You'll fit in just nicely, I can tell.

Thanks for that link, too. Some of the things these folks who lost their jobs due to jobs going to India said make so much sense, I'll quote them here.

"This is a different type of terror. You can't really see it, and it is far, far reaching."

And the US isn't fighting this type of "terra."

"For every lost job, there's a lost taxpayer."

Amen, but do the higher ups ever think about that?

"The multinational corporations are basically selling away the American economy."

What's going to happen when it's an empty shell?

"I believe (offshoring) is unstoppable."

I'm not sure if it's unstoppable but I don't think either the Republicans or the Democrats have the will to stop it. It would tick off their contributors big time.

And you're right - it would piss off their donors, who have long supported a fascist-type system which keeps the middle class fearful and obedient to the ruling class and the corporations they run.

Really, how do we stop the corporations when the USA in general is afflicted with such a herd mentality (DU and progressives notwithstanding)? Where is OUR say? If anyone's looking for REAL terrorists, they wear $3000 suits and they're laughing their fat, stogie-sucking asses off at us while we worry about some phantom greybeard on dialysis.

outlaw offshoring- period.

We could even forbid corporations from discussing it, even among themselves.

Nearly every progressive issue we talk about here has the elimination of corporate personhood at its roots.

"Republican'ts"~~~LOVE that!

I think that is THE ONLY WAY from now on that we Dems should refer to them!!!

In order to level, the playing field, ours has to be lowered. That means a lot of out-of-work Americans so that Indians can compete.
He certainly doesn't represent MY best interests. In the years when I should be looking forward to retirement, I am looking for a job.
I really can't afford to go back to school every 5 years to retool my skills. Companies like Oracle charge 1/10 the price for tuition in India that they charge in the US. That is not leveling the playing field.

India is a third world nation and that is where we are headed.

Oracle are huge bastards, not only in practice, but their product is crap as well in terms of cost.

To your point about school, not only can we not afford it, but time simply doesn't allow for constant re-education. Thanks to fiber-optics, BPO is happening so fast and it's literally impossible to keep playing career musical chairs to accommodate. New industries and technologies are just not emerging here fast enough. And how do any of us know that the career we choose to re-train for won't follow it's predecessor offshore?

Supporter of offshoring/inshoring = traitor to America.

Other than attacking Iraq, would a foreigner do anything much different from what he has done with the office?

How about that nuclear arms deal he just reached with India? Coming directly on top of selling security for our ports to Dubai or any other country for that matter, it is a clear indication of just how not seriously he takes the office that he sits in, nuclear arms, and our own security. Let him feel a little of the job loss pain that so many Americans have felt.

And if we can make it there we can save on shipping costs, taxes, regulations, labor, those pesky government regulations...

It's good for amurrca..

note: I'm beginning to think that "amurrca" is poplulated entirely of trustfund frat boys.

deal, Arbusto-man.

Until it's THEIR jobs that are being outsourced,until it's THEIR homes that they will lose,until it's THEIR retirement that has no future. Their bottom line goes up while more working class Americans are having to visit food pantries,soup kitchens,losing homes,being evicted for lack of rent money. Little kids who should be in their worry free years are finding hunger and fear,forced to sleep in vehicles because their parents can't find work or get enough for a rent deposit. The elderly are making the tough choices of food or--food or rent,food or medicine,food or heat. Middle class? What's that?

They will simply blame other victims. No, I'm afraid your original post title was quite correct about "Never".

"People do lose jobs as a result of globalization and it's painful for those who lose jobs," Bush acknowledged. "Globalization provides great opportunities (for the wealthy and powerful, and for me)."
"But it's not as if I give a flying fuck about anyone, but me,that is." admitted Bush.

Just when you think they can't get ANY more insufferable and out of touch with real Americans, along comes Vice President Fudd with this pearl of wisdom!

They're just battin' a GRAND today, aren't they?

...if you treasure your security . If we lose this game they're playing,

the poor American will be forced to eat the rich (fat and tender, yum).

There will be plenty of sore losermen and they will be coming for YOU.

rubbing salt in the wound.

"The United States would counter it by educating people with the skills needed to be employed in jobs emerging in the 21st century rather than discouraging outsourcing, he said."

http://tinyurl.com/zjpnr


WHAT education, you fascist bastard?
YOU and your minions CUT education spending so the rich can buy another god damned yacht.

If there is a hell, and I fervently hope there is, he will be roasting for the pain and misery he has caused us.

I don't hate many things, I feel it's a wasted emotion, but I HATE EVERY MOTHER FUCKING republican, I cant help it...lieing stealing cheating BASTARDS, all of them!

Sorry for the rant, I don't feel any better, which goes to show me that it is wasted emotion...christ, what kind of world am I leaving my kids?

On edit: Recommended for the greatest page

"Globalization provides great opportunities." yeah, for a privileged few. The rest of us lose our jobs AND our access to needed affordable medicine.

:grr:

but no... we should be able to live on next to no money yet still be able to pay any cost demanded for housing, food and utilities. To say nothing of healthcare. What is the healthcare system in India like anyway?

why do American Corporations send American jobs to India. Because it is cheaper you turd.

Okay, people, tell your kids to get educated and get into high tech... and watch their high tech jobs go to India.

WTF is bush thinking!
One thing is for sure he is not thinking of our well being

Friday, March 3, 2006; Posted: 11:40 a.m. EST (16:40 GMT)

"It's ... important to remember that when someone loses a job it's an incredibly difficult period for the worker and their families," Bush said in a speech in New Delhi. "It's true that some Americans have lost jobs when their companies move their operations overseas," he said.

"Some people believe the answer to this problem is to wall off our economy from the world through protectionist policies. I strongly disagree." (Watch Bush explain why the U.S. and India are natural partners -- 2:36)

"The United States will not give into the protectionists and lose these opportunities," Bush said.

"For the sake of workers in both our countries, America will trade with confidence."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/03/03/bush.india.fri/index.html

I'll never apologize for wanting to protect American jobs.

"some Americans have lost jobs..."

SOME? I've got news for ya, Junior...it's more than just a drop in the bucket.

:argh:

Man, I just love mangoes and talking to Indian call centers. I actually refuse to talk to Indian call centers and ask immediately to be transferred to an American. Anytime any of us get an Indian we should do this an immediately write a letter to the president of that company.

Google tax return + processing + outsourcing. More and more returns done overseas each year.

Feel safer, America?

This administration are a buncha' of pro-exploitation robber barons.

about a bumper sticker that says "Proud Protectionist---Keep American jobs in America!"

How many people on DU work at a place where they recieve goods from India.

(I do)

How many people on DU work at a place where they SELL goods TO India?

(not me)

How many work in IT environments where at least 50% of the workforce are contracters from India...
(I do).

it truly SUCKS

street corner in New Delhi could outperform George Walker Bush.

Just one little example.

to Fuck Off.:(

CNN had a video clip on its front page a couple of days ago. It was an American CEO who set up a design firm in India. He had a big smile on his face when he said "In the U.S., most of these people would be working for $70,000 per year. Here? Ten, maybe twelve thousand."

Kanye West needs to update his rap. George Bush doesn't care about black people OR the American worker.

:grr:

and it seems like it's only going to get worse. I'm tired of everyone in every other country
coming first before us Americans. We're all taking a back seat with Bush in charge.:grr:

1) Great picture. Makes Bush look like a dumbass.

2) New talking point--> BUSH IS FOR OUTSOURCING OF AMERICAN JOBS.

:wtf:

Workers in this country are just grist for the mill.

After you let the words sink in and shake your head a dozen or so times, it STILL doesn't sound any better, does it?

That's the "remedy," all right...what Bush considers to be "protectionist strategery," also known as keeping American jobs in the U.S.

:patriot:

And I LOVE your Pink Floyd sig pic :loveya:

What is the remedy? Who would be adversely effected?

I remember the buzz around the time of the 2004 election.

Companies were "laying low" with mass-scale outsourcing because they didn't want it to become an "election issue."

One pundit said "If Bush is re-elected, STAND BACK."

So this little India stump speech is nothing more than payback. It's just Bush sending a message to the people who re-selected him that they haven't been forgotten.

Kind of like the love letter Scalito sent to Dobson.

Translated
"We will not lose opportunites to screw our American workers"

<snip>
"The United States will not give into the protectionists and lose these opportunities," Bush said.
<snip>

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

The number of times I personally have had to read these quotes from him makes me dizzy and nauseous---> "important to remember" "difficult" "some Americans" "operations" "Some people believe" "this problem" "I strongly disagree" "The United States will not give in" "opportunities" "confidence"

Apply them to ANY pressing issue. ANY issue.

Katrina
Iraq
Taxes
Iran
UAE Ports Deal
The economy

Impossible that ANYONE would want to swallow that pabulum.

:nuke:

limited vocabulary shuffle, too? What an embarrassment for all of us this little man is.

n/t

"My rich friends got theirs. The rest of you can go pound sand up your asses."

Period.

For the sake of American workers, we must continue policies which eradicate their jobs?

:mad:

you put a policeman in the hospital for 12 weeks with your bicycle and dickweed shot his friend in the face... not to mention thousands upon thousands of dead and horribly maimed Iraqi innocents... why is there always pain for others associated with your actions?

the man who won't look out for his own is not a man in my book, sorry

Americans have to lose their good-paying jobs so corporations can go exploit people in other countries and make more money.

more evidence that Bush does not give a damn about the average American. Bush is more interested in being a tool for corporate America than fighting for Americans.

:mad:

If we ever try to get out jobs back we're going to have a HUGE problem on our hands.

But it won't.

He's doing great things for that country while destroying our own at a fast rate.

but I was listening to AAR, Majority Report, and they played "I Want My Country Back." I'm not much for country music, but the lyrics were great. Does anyone know who sings it?

the lyrics for "Takin My Country Back" is at General Discussion---Hey come on ya'll, can't have the Old, oh I mean, the New World Order without some sacrifices--Ya see, first what ya have ta do is make everyone in the world, third world, it's called leveraging the playing field; then as profits are made, my friends might give ya a little of it, after we squeeze ya'll dry with taxes to help support my good ol boys. Now ya'll have to think that the world is a baseball field, that's right and we'all is leveling the field--now, ya'll get what I mean. And, and ya'll are in the outfield and me and my buds are in the in field calling the shots.

what a sad state we have fallen to.

How does one compete with workers who make about 30 cents an hour? Are you suggesting we offer to do the job for 29?

What a slap in the face to American workers. :mad: