Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

La Nina weather phenomenon is coming: WMO

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 04:30 PM
Original message
La Nina weather phenomenon is coming: WMO
http://www.physorg.com/news11402.html

The World Meteorological Organization (WMO) said it saw unprecedented signs pointing to a looming La Nina, a phenomenon that originates off the western coast of South America but can disrupt weather patterns in many parts of the globe.

In a press release, the Geneva-based agency said temperatures in the central and eastern equatorial Pacific had been between 0.5 and 1.0 C (0.9 and 1.8 F) below normal since the start of the 2006.

"Combined with broader tropical Pacific ocean and atmosphere conditions, this is consistent with the early stages of a basin-wide La Nina event," it said.

"(...) It is unprecedented in the historical record for a La Nina of substantial intensity or duration to develop so early in the year."

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 04:33 PM
Response to Original message
1. Dang . . .
. . . just what the southwest needs. More dry hot weather. Guess we need to get used to weirdness.

more info:

Typical La Niña Impacts
La Niña tends to bring nearly opposite effects of El Niño to the United States — wetter than normal conditions across the Pacific Northwest and dryer and warmer than normal conditions across much of the southern tier. The impacts of El Niño and La Niña at these latitudes are most clearly seen in wintertime. In the continental U.S., during El Niño years, temperatures in the winter are warmer than normal in the North Central States, and cooler than normal in the Southeast and the Southwest. During a La Niña year, winter temperatures are warmer than normal in the Southeast and cooler than normal in the Northwest.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 04:38 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Ok that would explain the lack of snowfall up here
We finally got one snowfall earlier in the week. The last proper snow we got was early November. Normally we're up to our eyeballs in the stuff.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:43 AM
Response to Reply #1
24. I have a friend that lives in Alaska and he told me both Jan and Feb were
way warmer than normal. In fact January was ten degrees above average and had set a record. Not sure if that has any bearing on the La Nina issue or not but supposedly Northwest was to be cooler and that ain't happening.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 04:37 PM
Response to Original message
2. In Addition to Global Warming
aint letting the right wingers blame everything on some cyclical weather patterns.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 04:41 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Actually..
osama bin ladin controls the weather
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. I Thought That Was Bush
I confuse the two.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 04:46 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Welcome to DU monktonman!
:hi: Enjoy the addiction.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 04:50 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. Weather Modification Research/Technology Transfer Authorization Act of '05
....it's anybody's guess who is controlling what these days isn't it. :tinfoilhat: is on TIGHTER every day that goes by.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2453232

4) WEATHER MODIFICATION- The term `weather modification' means changing or controlling, or attempting to change or control, by artificial methods the natural development of atmospheric cloud forms or precipitation forms which occur in the troposphere.




(assessments and evaluations of the efficacy of weather modification, both purposeful (including cloud-seeding operations) and inadvertent (including downwind effects and anthropogenic effects).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 12:44 AM
Response to Reply #4
20. actually only Clenis has that power
welcome to DU :hi: monktonman
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 04:47 PM
Response to Original message
7. Several Mayan elders recently told me this is the year of Ik
Edited on Fri Mar-03-06 04:48 PM by SpiralHawk
Ik in their tradition is the whirlwind, and hummingbird

Ik brings Great Storms, and inspiration

But the people must engage their wills to draw the inspiration in, and then do something with it

This is how they told it to me, and this is how I tell it to you, SH
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 06:52 AM
Response to Reply #7
22. Thank you, SpiralHawk.
I hope to do exactly what you say.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #7
25. Thanks for passing this on. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 04:55 PM
Response to Original message
9. In other news...
WASHINGTON -- Brace yourself, coastal America. The hurricane season that begins June 1 may be worse than the last two, said Max Mayfield, director of the National Hurricane Center. And the last two were doozies.

There are several reasons:

# A historic cycle in which there have been more hurricanes and storms with great intensity.

# La Nina effect -- unusually cold Pacific Ocean temperatures that spawn more hurricanes in the Atlantic.

# Possibly, global warming or other environmental causes.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=115&topic_id=44772&mesg_id=44772
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 05:25 PM
Response to Original message
10. Is La Nina the opposite of La Nino?
Edited on Fri Mar-03-06 05:26 PM by Joanne98
Because La Nino suppresses hurricanes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 05:47 PM
Response to Original message
11. Damn, and I never finished figuring out EL Nino...
wonder how bad the dry spell and monsoons will be and if aid will be required.

(that's a great site, thanks for linking)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 06:26 PM
Response to Original message
12. Aren't they contradicting themselves?
"Most models and expert interpretations favour the event dissipating quite rapidly over the next three to six months," the UN's weather agency said.

"Nonetheless, neither a continuation of La Nina beyond mid-year, nor the development of El Nino in the second half of 2006, can be ruled out as possible outcomes from the current prevailing situation."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 07:41 PM
Response to Original message
13. drought.
hope it's not too bad here in the bay area.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 07:47 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. We've had above-average precip the last two years....
....so we should be fine (in fact, my garden could do with a little LESS rain right now). All the aquifers and reservoirs are full right now (and the Sierra snowpack isn't great, but it's OK), so we're in good shape.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 07:54 PM
Response to Original message
15. Did anyone else see this...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
motocicleta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 10:39 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. Yes, I saw, yes I am freaked out, but not solely because of this. So many
factors are coming together right now - warming, aquifer drainage, overpopulation, pesticides in 90% of the streams and rivers, peak oil - that it is getting more and more difficult to imagine life as we know it continuing very long.

I know, everybody likes to say, but they predicted that shit in the past, and they were wrong then, so they must be wrong again. Maybe. But maybe it's like I think, like tire technology -

Back in the good old days of racing, tires were hard, non-sticky things. You couldn't go very fast before they lost their grip, and you would slide out and crash. Then we had many technological advances I can't explain. Tires grip much better. That and other technological advances made it so racers can go way, way faster than in the old days, much, much safer. But now, when those physical limits are reached, grip is really lost, and you crash, you're going 190, 200 mph, instead of crashing at the 80-90 it used to be. 200 mph crash is much worse than the 80 mph crash.

So maybe Paul Ehrlich thought we were going to crash at 130, but he didn't take into account technological advances, and we really can push this sucker up to 200. It's simple physics, though - you can't just ride the bike faster and faster forever. Sooner or later you have to decide to cruise at 60 or thereabouts, and even then you might crash, but it's a guarantee that if you keep pushing the envelope you're going down.

What I mean is - the dust bowl was bad. Can you imagine how bad one would be today, with the population pressure in our cities, and the economic pressure cooker the mass of people are in? You add in enlarged migration from the affected areas and higher food prices due to drought? I don't want any part of it. And it makes me think we'd have been better off crashing at 130. Crashing at 200 is way worse.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 11:49 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. True enough. Good observations. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
motocicleta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. I initially read your signature line as
"...from the sphincter of the end of the world."

Which, I guess, makes pretty good sense.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #19
26. Heh ... considering where I'm located...
...that's not so far from the truth!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 06:55 AM
Response to Reply #15
23. Is this a good place to remind everyone
that there are tons of posts of what's going on in the world on the Environment/Energy subsection of DU? So many articles that WE ALL need to read and see.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 11:54 PM
Response to Original message
18. I have been in upper Texas and Lower Oklahoma
where the fires occurred that land is dry and parch and its spring...

Freaky stuff!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 12:54 AM
Response to Original message
21. These things have a way of working themselves out.
nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun May 12th 2024, 07:58 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC