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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 01:15 AM
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Late arrival for HD-DVD
Late arrival for HD-DVD
Reuters
March 24, 2006

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Toshiba's US unit may delay the launch of its next-generation DVD player for several weeks to coincide with the April debut of movies that play in the new HD DVD format.
Championed by Toshiba, HD DVD is one of two competing formats hoping to breath new life into the slowing home video market. The rival format is Blu-ray, created by a group led by Sony.
In January, Toshiba America Consumer Products said it would in March ship its first players, the HD-XA1 and HD-A1, for $US799 ($1120) and $US499, respectively.
"Toshiba is currently working with the studios as well as our retailers, to finalise the sale date of our players," the company said in a statement. In order to maximise the launch of HD DVD, we intend to synchronise the launch of our players with HD DVD title releases."
Last week, Warner Home Video said it would release its first titles, including Million Dollar Baby, and The Phantom of the Opera April 18.
Sony Pictures has said it aims to deliver its first movies in the Blu-ray DVD format to US stores in late May to coincide with the entry of compatible disc players, from makers such as Samsung.
However, Sony has delayed the release of its PlayStation 3 console until early November, a launch expected to give a huge boost to the installed base of the Blu-ray technology.
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 02:20 AM
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1. Beta version 2.
Here we go.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:51 AM
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2. Yes, I seems that Sony learned nothing from the Beta/VHS format war.
Even if Blu-Ray is better, HD-DVD will win out, because HD-DVD is easier to remember and it's how people will refer to the HD-DVD's (see, I just did it).
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 10:13 AM
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4. I predict a slow adoption of HD Discs, no matter the format.
They made standard DVDs and players too cheap. Most of my DVDs I get used or new for less than ten bucks each.

Most people won't repay this soon...or even see the difference in quality in many cases.

Heck, I'm a audio/videophile and with my upscaling DVD player ($200) a standard DVD looks nearly HD on my 65" Sony.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 03:16 PM
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10. It all depends on how quickly the price falls, and how quickly...
...the technology is standardized.

These are only going to benefit those who have Hi-Def Televisions.

If you have one, yes DVD's do look pretty good, but these will have twice the resolution (1080 lines compared to 525 lines). Unfortunately, just like with the NTSC v. PAL, the U.S. television industry has selected the lowest resolution of the High-Def standards. We are getting 1050 to 1080 lines of resolution, but a European consortium developed another standard with 1,250 scanning lines in the 1990's, but I think they are going with a different 1080 standard now. Philips developed a HD system with 1500 lines, but we didn't get that.

I just wonder if, once we all have 1050 or 1080 set, are they going to introduce a "Super HD" with 1500 line? In the end, it's all just a game. Once everyone has a standard DVD player, they have to come up with something new that is less common to sell to us.

Here a link that has some good info, it's all still very confusing: <http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/learn/about/chapters/0,,2076_3105627_3105633,00.html>
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cureautismnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 10:45 AM
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5. $500 for a PLAYER!
I don't think so. You can get 5 regular DVD RECORDERS for that exorbitant rate.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 10:55 AM
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6. One would have to be a rank fucking idiot to go for that one!
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 02:27 PM
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7. All consumer electronics start out high, then drop. In 1974, my Dad...
...bought one of the first "Pocket Calculators" for around $75.00 (that's probably close to $200.00 today), but in about 10 years, they were under $10.00.

Check out this "About .com" article from 2001 (oldest I could find):

<http://hometheater.about.com/library/weekly/aa080501a.htm>

Budget DVD Players: 2001

Of all the topics I write about, I get more comments and questions on the topic of DVD than anything else. The questions I get cover the following: Do I need a high-end TV? What if my TV doesn't have S-Video or component video connections? Can I still listen to the audio soundtracks from a DVD without a surround sound system? How much do DVD movies cost? How much does a decent player cost? What player should I buy?

Since their introduction into the U.S. market in 1997, the cost of the average DVD player has dropped considerably. Generally, $200 DVD players on store shelves today are much more versatile and provide better performance than $500 players that were on store shelves just two years ago. The DVD player is quickly becoming the primary video appliance of the new Millennium as retailers relegate less and less space to VHS movie sales and rentals, in order to make way for the demand for more DVD movie product....

(more at link above)


I didn't buy a DVD player until they got down to around $100.00 about 3 years ago. I'm definitely going to wait until I have a High-Def T.V., which is what these are for, which will be at least 5-6 years.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 02:46 PM
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8. get a PS3
Edited on Mon Mar-27-06 02:47 PM by jsamuel
at least you can play games on it too
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 04:48 PM
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11. This may be the tipping point - leaning toward Blu-Ray already
Sony sold 100 million PS2's, and with Blu-Ray coming in the new PS3 with no HD-DVD available on Xbox 2, this may be a big deciding factor.

Most of the major studios have already signed on to offer either both or the Blu-Ray format. Still, I'm going to wait and let the market figure it out cause DVD already looks good enough for the time-being. If you've got a good setup, you're already fairly close to theater quality.
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 02:53 PM
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9. Oh, yes. Its the DVD-Audio v. SACD debacle, only this time with video!
mikey_the_rat
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:44 PM
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12. And in that case
neither format took off and became small niche formats.
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