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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:14 AM
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Bush approval ratings hit new low in California
Poll reflects growing discontent with president, Congress

Washington -- President Bush's job approval ratings have fallen to a new low among California voters, as Republicans once loyal to the commander-in-chief are abandoning him over issues from the Iraq war to immigration to runaway federal spending, according to a Field Poll released today.

Even as Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has seen his ratings start to rebound among state voters, 28 percent of Californians now approve of the job Bush is doing, while 65 percent of state voters disapprove.

"We're in uncharted waters," said Mark DiCamillo, director of the Field Poll. "All previous presidents who have dipped this low either resigned from office shortly thereafter or were voted out of office. Here we have a president who will be with us for 2 1/2 more years.

"The question is, can a president who has reached those depths reconnect with voters and turn those ratings around? I've never seen it done before because we've never had it happen before."



SFGate
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:23 AM
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1. No worries! Diebold+new secretary of state will cure that.
Once you got stuck with Ahnuld you became BFEE's bitches. Say hello to Florida, Ohio, your cell palls.
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Skarbrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:39 AM
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2. If Californians can't get rid of Ahhnold, we are all doomed. That man
didn't even have to run in a real election to become Governor of, what it is? 8th largest economy in the world. Talk about coup after coup with these, oh, I'm running out of adjectives.

:crazy:

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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 07:56 PM
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10. He will probably get in again because
the two Democratic challengers have had such a dirty filthy primary campaign and have bloodied themselves beyond redemption. These two idiots have given Arnie so much dirt on each other that all Arnie has to do is use the same charges they have leveled each other to take out the one who 'wins' the primary. They have so disgusted me that I have decided in Tuesday's primary to leave that spot blank and vote for neither of them.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:32 PM
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17. It is awful, isn't it?
Instead of focusing on issues and letting the voters decide who would make the better Dem candidate to face Ahnold in November, they have both screwed up so royally that neither deserves to win. In a state as large as California, it's incredible that this is the best we can come up with.
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:19 PM
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22. Arnie..
has dirtier laundry on him which made is coup successful....Enron! As Greg Palast reported Gov. Groper was part of the Enron plan because Gray Davis stood up to Big Energy and demanded our billions back which Enron has ripped off from us.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:58 AM
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3. For all non-Californians who are wondering how
Ahnold's approval ratings could be improving...

We are in the midst of a Democratic primary where the two top candidates, Phil Angelides and Steve Westly, have both gone negative on each other in a series of campaign ads that air non-stop and would have you believe both are nothing more than corrupt politicians. Instead of focusing on how terrible Ahnold is and the need to send him packing, these two are actually helping him out.

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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:27 AM
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4. Ah
the circular firing squad.
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Jack Frost Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:50 PM
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7. right
Not to mention that Ahnold's pretty much kept his nose out of the media for months.
No news is good news, right? That seems to be the plan. Just sit back and let the Democrats attack each other, then in the general elections, you copy and paste the loser's attack ads and just put "paid for by the GOP" at the bottom.

If Ahnold keeps his job, it will be because of Steve Westly going negative. Very simple.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 07:59 PM
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11. That's right
it should have been easy to get Arnie out but thanks to the two moronic Democrats they have done the impossible, actually make Arnie look better. x(
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:07 PM
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15. And for all voters wondering how Ahnold's number can be improving
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 10:11 PM by sfexpat2000
you may remember that we are in the middle of the Hinder American Voters Act implementation, which was passed to lose more Democratic votes more efficiently.

And California has an aggressive Republican APPOINTED Sec of State that is shoving illegal voting machines down our throats. If Ahnold's numbers improve between now and the election, hey -- can't hurt the Thuggery next time they go to steal an election.

If we start looking a little redder in the near future, please remember the Election Reform Forum told you so.

:(

/typos
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:43 PM
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18. For the first time I will be voting using an
opti-scan (or is that opti-scam) system manufactured by the crooks at Sequoia. (Going absentee wouldn't help because the ballot is the same.) It's my understanding that I will feed my ballot into a machine that looks like a paper shredder and the machine will let me know if I under or over-voted. What it will not do is let me know that my ballot was accurately read and my vote properly recorded.

I'm quite confident that the odds of having my vote count diminished greatly when Ahnold installed his repuke choice for Sec. of State.

I think between the bloodbath that the Dem primary has turned into, the suspect polls that show Ahnold coming on strong, and out and out election fraud, the voters of CA are screwed.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:13 AM
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20. We may well be. There still is a chance that one of these
HAVA lawsuits will yeild something, that Debra Bowen will manage to get elected or that grassroots will throw these vote eating machines into the nearest body of water.

Here in San Francisco County, a lot of people believe we don't have a "problem" because they don't realize that opti-scan systems use tabulators that are also computers. They mistakenly believe that because we don't use touchscreens, we're "okay".

One young phonebanker told me recently, "Oh, we're okay! We have NEW machines!"

Ack.

We will get rid of these crooks. It's just a matter of when and of what we will have to endure until we do. But, they will lose this one. There are too many people who have their number, and there are more and more of us everyday.

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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:40 PM
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16. Sounds like you guys need a grassroots movement
to barrage both candidates with a "stop this, now" campaign, or some such thing.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:32 AM
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5. Is Ahrnuld turning into girly-man?? Ass kisser arnie has changed his mind?
Months ago Arnie stated a wall should be put up seperating CA & Mexico only to rediculed to the point of his apologizing for comment with retratrion.... Colleyfornia can do better with a qualified been/there done that governator, at least Warren Beatty played the part of a poitician, you know, like Reagan.

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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 02:04 PM
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9. Our local TV ads have been using Reagan comparisons for the repub ...
candidates! No more snuggly photo-ops w/their current boy are to be seen anywhere, like they were a few years ago. It's like every repub is pretending they never heard of him - "Bush? What Bush! Now how 'bout that Reagan? My guy is just like Prez Reagan!" Asshats!

I never miss the opportunity to tie that 'bush' around their necks in conversation, either. They bought him ... they OWN his ass ... they get to claim him!

I'd just bet most of the backwash approvals come from Fresno, Tulare & Kern Counties - those of us that live here are deep in denial country! DUers in denial country, that's located somewhere betwixt a rock & a hard place!

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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:20 PM
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12. Reagan! Talk about raising the dead. They've got their boy
in the WH and their toadies in Congress, you'd think they could run on their own party laurels. Ha! Yessiree. You bought him, you own him, and we are going to remind every voter!
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:33 PM
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6. Uncharted waters.....
that sounds ominous. I wonder how Washington is dealing with this news, since they no doubt read Bush's approval rating like people used to read ticker-tape from the stock market.

Bush = new lows.

Bush = new ultra-lows.

Bush = non-existent approval.

What does this mean for Karl Rove? It could, quite possibly, mean that they don't care. I mean, if they are cut loose from the moorings of approval that tie down ordinary politicians, maybe they are now free to do whatever they want?

Welcome to the Middle Ages, about 543 A.D.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:44 PM
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8. SCARY...
Indeed, the little bit of resistance that our Democrat Senators and Congresspersons do put up would make you think Brush had a mandate..If he has roughly 10 percent of the Kook hard right support left, I wouldn't put anything past him and his regime... Watch out good people of Iran you are next.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:40 PM
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13. oh yea, steroid boy is re-bounding...
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 08:41 PM by xxqqqzme
by next November the race will be 2 close 2 call.....then the rethug SoS certified diebold machines take over. Welcome 2 Califlorida.
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:44 PM
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14. That's suspicious
Never underestimate the workings of the great Machiavellian, KKKarl Rove, even as far away from Wash DC as Calif.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:49 PM
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19. Why didn't they put GW's 28% approval rating in the headline?
And why do more than 1 out of 4 californiers approve? Shouldn't it be 2 out of 10 or less by now.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 09:20 AM
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21. That many (28%) in a place like California? That's troubling.
Anyway, someone here the other day compared the next 2 1/2 years to the Bataan death march, politically speaking of course. Very apt. Good thing California is like an independent country, because the horrors yet to be visited upon the rest of us by George Bush will not be felt there as much (except of course if the bastard starts another war.)
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