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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 11:18 AM
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Giuliani, McCain Most Popular Politicians, According To New Poll

http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index.jsp?stid=1&aid=59964

Giuliani, McCain Most Popular Politicians, According To New Poll

It's not yet clear if either will make a run for the White House in 2008, but a new survey shows both Rudy Giuliani and John McCain remain popular and not just within their own parties.

...

Giuliani had the highest overall score at 63.5, including a 73.5 among Republicans and 57.5 among Democrats. McCain had an overall score of 56, which is actually a drop of 3.7 points since March.

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The poll also gave Hillary Clinton a high score of 49.9 with the majority of her support coming from Democrats.

Coming in at the bottom of the poll were Vice President Dick Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist and President George W. Bush.


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RedStateShame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 11:19 AM
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1. Could I find that poll
in my most recent issue of "Absolute Bullshit Weekly?"
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 11:21 AM
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2. I bet Oprah would spank them both badly in any poll...n/t
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 11:28 AM
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5. right -- name recognition among people with land line phones
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urbuddha Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 10:13 PM
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41. Demos have a lot of work to do...
I really like Al Gore. This country needs someone like Al Gore.
Unfortunately...I wish I could be optimistic but I don't believe this will happen.
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 11:22 AM
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3. ughhh
what a nightmare ticket...McCain/Guiliani...equally as bad--> H Clinton/anyone. WTF my fellow NYers? Don't we have anything better than Rudy and Hillary to offer/ :wtf:
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 11:24 AM
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4. What did these two bozos do to attain their popularity?
One thing is certain, McLame is a * whore and does what he's told.
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 11:30 AM
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6. Giuliani won't make it with the family values types
if they are consistent in their beliefs... :sarcasm:

The only reason he's popular is because on September 11th 2001, most Americans had to look to him for leadership since the Chimp was in hiding. He basically did what anyone in his shoes should have done as part of his job. I still don't get why he's seen as a hero because he got in a car and drove downtown. Isn't that what the mayor is supposed to do?

McCain's luster will fade as his craven political whoring becomes more apparent.

:eyes:
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:02 PM
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14. Over 50% of Dems voted for him?
I mean :wtf:

I know not one single Democrat who likes Rudy Guiliani. Of course, I don't live in New York, maybe he's popular among Dems there. Even if that's the case, I still can't understand it.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 05:44 PM
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31. Now you know one.
I know not one single Democrat who likes Rudy Guiliani.

Like most NYers, who are overwhelmingly Democratic, but voted for Rudy in landslides, I like him. I'm a Dem who voted for Giuliani, and think he did an excellent job as mayor.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 09:10 PM
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39. You got swindled. Research him closer. (nt)
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 05:52 AM
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43. Research him?
I knew him then, and your fact-free (research-free?) implication that I didn't is pretty arrogant, IMO.

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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 06:56 AM
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44. For starters have you read about how he treated his wife?
Have you read about how he supports (almost?) everything Bush and the Republican leadership has been doing? Have you read about his ties to certain corrupt buisnessmen? All of this was in the news a couple of years ago, but was never front page news, always buried as all Republican trangressions tend to be.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 07:59 AM
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45. Do you think he would make a good President?
and if so, why? Just curious. I'm fascinated as to why a Democrat would pick him out as their most popular choice among all politicians.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 07:59 PM
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37. NO, NY (and NJ and CT) Democrats
all knew him before 911.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:05 PM
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17. I live around NYC so I clearly remember the Pre-9/11 Rudy
as the racist facsist that he really is.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 06:45 PM
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33. I second that
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sleepyhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 09:54 PM
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40. Third. n/t
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 01:19 PM
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25. They'll support him if talk radio and fox tells them to
mark my words. 'HANNITY SEZ' tends to sway the brainless
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diva77 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 11:40 AM
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7. Interesting article on Giuliani from Feb 2004 NYT
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0DE0D61F3DF931A15751C0A9629C8B63&sec=health&pagewanted=print

as of Feb 2004, article from NYT on what Rudy's been up to:

RUDY INC.: A Politician's Empire; Giuliani, Selling His Public Image, Branches Out for Private Profit

<snip>
The firm, which opened in January 2002 in affiliation with Ernst & Young, the global accounting firm, is clearly and without apology driven by the stature Mr. Giuliani gained in commanding the New York City Police Department and in guiding the city after the World Trade Center attack. It is sustained by the advice Mr. Giuliani and his partners offer in appearances they make around the nation and the world, warning audiences that more attacks are almost certainly on the way. Such predictions, of course, benefit both the former mayor's firm and the clients he has retained, many of them involved in selling terrorism preparedness products.

<snip>
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 11:42 AM
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8. If this is true, the country is in really bad shape and it will get worse.
People are voting for mytical icons with no real feel or concern for the average American. We are in a hopeless situation.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 11:45 AM
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9. The BEST part of this article...
...is this line, "Coming in at the bottom of the poll were Vice President Dick Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist and President George W. Bush."

How rich! How satisfying! ...Kinda like a Snicker's bar.

How revealing--that the politicians we know the most--the ones that we've experienced the most---are the MOST unpopular.

How telling...the more we get to know the Bush junta---the more America despises them.

When Bob Woodward asked Junior how history will judge his administration and their war policy--Junior said, "We won't know. We'll be dead."

HA! Ohhhhh...you'll know Junior. You'll know. America hates you now. As history rolls on, during the next decades--you will NEVER stop hearing about what a failure. That gigantic hole you've dug America into will be discussed, debated, and mocked FOR THE REST OF YOUR MISERABLE LIFE.

Putz!
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:01 PM
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13. Yeah, but how low were they?????
The article stupidly doesn't say, like it doesn't matter how unpopular the current leadership is!!!

Anyone have a link to the poll data?
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 11:50 AM
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10. Adultery and divorce are the REAL threats to marriage. Pass it on!
john and rudy ... mister and mister family values.

Rudy lived with gay men when 9/11 happened ... why aren't the wingers in a tizz about that?
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 11:56 AM
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11. so now Giuliani can expect a big sloppy hug from McCain...
:puke:
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:01 PM
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12. A methodology note
"Quinnipiac asked more than 1,500 voters nationwide to rate 19 national leaders on a scale of zero to 100."

So, this doesn't mean anything like "who would you vote for".
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:02 PM
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15. I would give Bush 10%.
Why not 0? Because Bush doesn't take the social conservatives seriously, he only uses them. That's worth a little something, isn't it?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:10 PM
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21. True, he plays them for chumps
I guess that's got its good points.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:03 PM
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16. Keep showing a picture of McCain eating cake with Bush while New Orleans
drowned and McCain's popularity will slide. Show McCain selling his soul to Falwell and the "agents of intolerence" and McCain will hit rock bottom fast.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:09 PM
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20. McCain's popularity doesn't need to slide
While sure, everyone knows who he is, he's pissed off the fundies and other conservatives far too much to ever get their vote again (will never win the primaries) and enough of us know what he's all about to ever win a national election. I not even sure if the repukes would fix the election for him if it came to it.
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eagler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:06 PM
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18. Limbaugh just said that Gingrich came out on top in some poll
ahead of Giuliani and McCain.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:07 PM
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19. Giuliani support same-sex marriage; Hillary does not.
Interesting, huh? How does that work, that the Republican supports gay rights more than the Democrat?
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kerouac Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:19 PM
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22. They're great....
for me to poop on..


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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:24 PM
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23. McCain Seems to be Dropping Almost As Fast as Bush. I Wonder Why
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 01:15 PM
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24. Love that Photo
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:36 PM
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29. You'll Be Seeing A Lot More of It If McCain Gets The Repub Nomination
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 04:02 PM
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30. I can't Wait to post a few onf my own
LOL





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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:07 PM
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26. Who'd they poll - donaters to the GOP?
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:09 PM
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27. Oh wait, I get it!
It's the propaganda that Bush is spending so much of our money on.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:13 PM
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28. So, dissing Bush ( who can't run again) is a waste of time?
I said this months ago, we need to start focusing on any Repuke who is even dreaming about running in 2008. Especially McCain and Giuliani. Why do we waste so much time focusing on Bushit and his possible affairs with Condi?
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 06:45 PM
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32. And my aunt Fanny's right up there with them!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 07:29 PM
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34. Popular with whom?
People that don't know their dirty track record?
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 07:48 PM
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36. Giuliani: Popular with Democrats, as well as Republicans
Edited on Mon Jun-05-06 07:49 PM by robcon
IN NYC, where Democrats outnumber Repukes by more than 2 to 1, Giuliani was re-elected by almost 60-40.

He was popular in NY among a broad array of people. He did a great job.

Where his popularity is on a national scale is harder to measure.

edit:typo
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 07:29 PM
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35. One word...
PUKE :puke: :thumbsdown:
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 08:13 PM
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38. Delegates at MN GOP State convention prefer Newt
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 03:01 AM
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42. Remember who owns the media. THEY do.
n/t
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