More arrests could be coming, says RCMP

Always good to see the bad guys get caught before doing any harm.

I've commented here lately people just seem astounded at the notion that cops could do something competent, ever, even in a country like Canada, so a lot of people are just plain not believing it.

The initial reports had them in possession, but then it's revealed they never were and the '3 tonnes' were part of a sting and the RCMP handled the shipment--never a threat that 3 tonnes would fall into 'enemy' hands.

There are rumours that the training camp was actually just a 'paintball' rink and well...probably better to keep watching this 'homegrown' terrorist operation while it goes through the courts...

And frankly, if I was a sane police officer, I wouldn't let them actually accept delivery either.

I'm sure the more probative evidence is the bomb-making equipment alluded to. After all, by itself, 3 tonnes of this stuff just means you want to grow a lot of crops.

to be. The cops have got their side out (funny out that works). Now, let's see the rest of the story.

I haven't seen any real bomb making equipment yet. Two multi-meters, wires, a circuit board and cellphone are NOT bomb making equipment unless you have explosives. The bag of fertilyzer belonged to police.

sure, let's see how this turns out. A detonator requires more than what you described, no question.

Edit: And such assertions will have to be demonstrated in a court of law, which is why I'm such a big supporter of trials over secret detentions.

Well, not a cell phone. I am a bit of a luddite when it comes to cell phones.

The thing seems like a lot less than it did last Friday.

On edit - I don't have any fertilizer, Officer Mike. Just wires and a multi-meter. Those things can come in handy if you own a house.

amazing how people here are giving every benefit of the doubt to those arrested. Now, of course there's a presumption of innocence in a legal sense, but speaking personally, i don't give these guys the benefit of the doubt, in the same way I didn't give OJ. Sure, police make mistakes everywhere, but to somehow translate that into being dismissive of every police operation is silly. Just because your president is a colossal fuck up, doesn't mean that every bit of police enforcement anywhere in the world can be equated to rascist fascists attacking poor innocent minorities. We have a fine force up here, and I do give them the benefit of the doubt.

They just can't imagine that Canada is somehow an exception to what they believe to be a general rule.

Actually, I'd love if they were. I'm just trying to understand how there can be such rampant (if hardly universal) opinion that a successful legitimate police operation like this is simply too incredible to be, well, credible.

I think that what's going on in the US has led to this distrust of any sort of police action. In the US and abroad, there are agencies doing good work and fighting the good fight. It is conceivable to me that terrorists exist. It is conceivable to me that they have attacked and want to attack again. I'm not part of this LIHOP or MIHOP crowd with respect to 911. Certainly, the administration has taken advantage of those events to advance its goals, but that does not mean that legitimate threats do not exist. I don't succumb to the fearmongering of some, but by the same token, I don't like in gumdrop fantasy land where fanatical terrorists are just some sort of myth. It's amazing how people here fall in-line with the tired old bush argument that liberals are soft on terror. That's a smear, yet that's exactly what people do here by giving guys like this the benefit of the doubt before our men in blue. One can still think Bush is a dickwad, but still admit there's a problem to be tackled.

I agree completely.

the fact that they accepted delivery of the 3 tonnes is telling in itself. What do some kids in Scarborough and Mississauga need with it? It's not hard to draw inferences. Secondly, to the poster that quoted "rumors"...what is your source? Again, I give the benefit of the doubt to those in law enforcement who were tracking these individuals for a couple of years.

a terrorist act to happen in Canada. Their hatred of anything that isn't "liberal' is astounding. Just go to the Canada forum and look around.
I mean, it looks like we foiled a major attempt here, and all the Harper-Haters can say is "oh its a big conspiracy, all fake, trumped up charges, propoganda, etc, etc." And what would of happened if a bomb went off and people died? "Harper was behind this, all fake, propoganda, etc, etc."
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Besides we already had a terrorist act in Ontario in the last month...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=190x14947

funny thing is, many people on these boards don't realize that Harper would practically be considered lefist in the US and that US Dems would be considered quite far to the right in Canada. Hell, even our Christian relgious groups, while holding odious positions, still believe in such things like universal health-care! It's a different system up here and to make Harper = Bush argument is so simplistic and shows such a lack of understanding. Conservative is just a word, and it means different things in Canada. I'm not a huge fan of Harper's...he is in fact a bit too right for me (panders to the religious crowd), but some of his ideas I don't mind. In any case, in Canada, the political discussion is more civil and politicians are held to higher account in the adversarial parliamentary system. I could never imagine Bush taking questions in a session of Congress. Bottom line, people who think that Canadians would keep in power someone like Bush don't understand Canada. A terrorist attack might occur in Canada one day, and I hope and beleive that our people will deal with it in a civil manner, as opposed to playing political blame games. Bottom line, this operation started while the liberals were in power, and was consummated by the Conseratives. Kudos to them...but more kudos to the police agenices that kept at it regardless of who was in power...

He seemed conservative, and closer to Bush than the alternatives, certainly, but he made a disciplined effort to do so within the boundaries of what the Canadian public would accept. He benefited greatly from accumulated resentment over corruption. His job is now not to squander the opportunity he has been gracefully and in no small part, grudgingly provided.

Now, if he was in the US, he'd have no incentive to be even half moderate in many parts of the country. But I note that he would be so badly damaged by a phony terror operation that it might literally destroy his political career. That's why I don't see him doing much of anything but backing the police services and hoping they know what the hell they're doing.

And um, I hope they know what the hell they're doing too.

or at least we're not supposed to. It use to be innocent until proven guilty, I guess not anymore (at least not after 911). :(

But these highly politically charged matters can be another thing altogether.